[the hog]

1D 1H
2D 3C
3H 3S
3NT

[Wackojack]

cloa513, on 2011-July-27, 16:06, said:

1♦,1♥,2♥,2♠(general force),3♦,3♠(offering shortage definite club cover), 3NT shouldn't be problem.

I did ask for standard methods. However, in the spirit of the "Alice in Wonderland" world above where a likely moysian 2♥ contract is preferred to a likely 8 card and even possible 10 card fit in 2♦. And responder's twice bid suit shows a shortage in that suit and length in an unbid suit, I will make a try.
1♦-1♠
2♣- 2♠
3♣-3NT

Where 1♠ = relay
2♣ = relay
2♠= shortage and length in ♣and ♥
3♣ = shortage
3NT = That should do it

Hog said:

1D 1H
2D 3C
3H 3S
3NT

Thanks Hog I like the brevity. Though this does repeat the 2nd post by semeai.

[Zelandakh]

Well, if you are going to allow non-standard methods...

1D = 10-17, 4+ diamonds, unbalanced
... - 1H = INV+ relay
1S = min, not 4 spades unless also 4 hearts
... - 1N = GF relay
2D = 6+ diamonds, no side suit
... - 2S = stop ask
2N = yes
... - 3S = how good?
3N = just fine

[WGF_Flame]

my bid is same as semeai's.
This is standard 2/1.

An interesting question is what would we have done if spades were hearts and hearts were spades on both hands.
In such a case standard bidding might have fail which is a case for some less standard ideas.

This post has been edited by WGF_Flame: 2011-July-28, 07:16

[jmcw]

Agree with the splinterers.

[Lurpoa]

jmcw, on 2011-July-28, 09:26, said:

Agree with the splinterers.

♥♥♥

♥ WHY ?

♥♥♥

[Zelandakh]

They believe it is the most descriptive bid. It might be more helpful to perhaps give some more specifics of why you think a splinter is wrong on the hand. One word posts, and I include "LOL" in this, are rarely beneficial to the overall discussion. I am sure if you asked more specific questions than a general why (as you did before the up/down-voting) you would get answers that were more helpful to you overall, as well as possibly being useful to the community as a whole.