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Im pretty sure thay arent 4..so you know after 2nt they are 5+ at least..would you consider bidding 3nt on 2nt-3♣ ?
Am I mad ?
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Posted 2011-July-18, 14:05
Tataie, on 2011-July-18, 14:01, said:
If you bid 2nt , 3♣ or 3♦ in front are both natural arent they ? 
Beside you have no ideea how true you are with "my friend".
I used to play a lot with you , altay , ahuzobu , seawind , fifee ,noosance on okbridge.
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Beside you have no ideea how true you are with "my friend".
I used to play a lot with you , altay , ahuzobu , seawind , fifee ,noosance on okbridge.
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Good old days, but we still do except noos and ahu, come join us in BBO.
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Tataie, on 2011-July-18, 14:05, said:
Im pretty sure thay arent 4..so you know after 2nt they are 5+ at least..would you consider bidding 3nt on 2nt-3♣ ?
Yes , i never said my pass will be perfect each and everytime, it was just my opinion to consider passing and indeed i wld pass. Although i know it is wrong to pass on this hand the way question was asked
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Posted 2011-July-18, 14:08
Good old days for real.
Im still Tataie on bbo ..was Rafy on okbridge.
Im still Tataie on bbo ..was Rafy on okbridge.
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Posted 2011-July-18, 14:08
Good old days for real.
Im still Tataie on bbo ..was Rafy on okbridge.
Im still Tataie on bbo ..was Rafy on okbridge.
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Posted 2011-July-18, 14:10
Tataie, on 2011-July-18, 14:08, said:
Good old days for real.
Im still Tataie on bbo ..was Rafy on okbridge.
Im still Tataie on bbo ..was Rafy on okbridge.
RAFY!!! Oh yea i know u well !!
"Genius has its own limitations, however stupidity has no such boundaries!"
"It's only when a mosquito lands on your testicles that you realize there is always a way to solve problems without using violence!"
"Well to be perfectly honest, in my humble opinion, of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view, but also by looking into this matter in a different perspective and without being condemning of one's view's and by trying to make it objectified, and by considering each and every one's valid opinion, I honestly believe that I completely forgot what I was going to say."
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"Well to be perfectly honest, in my humble opinion, of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view, but also by looking into this matter in a different perspective and without being condemning of one's view's and by trying to make it objectified, and by considering each and every one's valid opinion, I honestly believe that I completely forgot what I was going to say."
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Posted 2011-July-18, 14:11
I know you are..would you believe Peyret forgot me after playing for years with him ??? OMG..Is he got that old ??
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Posted 2011-July-18, 14:48
Tataie, on 2011-July-18, 14:05, said:
Im pretty sure thay arent 4..so you know after 2nt they are 5+ at least..would you consider bidding 3nt on 2nt-3♣ ?
why would I do that? 2NT was allready a stretch, if p thinks 3♣ is enough then it certainly is.
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Posted 2011-July-18, 15:05
Im pretty sure pd doesnt expect his crappy Qxxxx+ to land on AKxx in hand full of controls.
If your pd would open 2nt would you bid 3nt on Qxxxxx ? Probably not
What if youd know he has AKx and your Qxxxxx just provides 3 extra tricks ? All would bid 3nt
same here pd x and bid 2nt and you with Qxxxxx and nothing else presume 3♣ is much better but if you would know your Qxxxxx ♣ , your 2 crappy points are in fact 6 tricks , 3nt is the better option.
If your pd would open 2nt would you bid 3nt on Qxxxxx ? Probably not
What if youd know he has AKx and your Qxxxxx just provides 3 extra tricks ? All would bid 3nt
same here pd x and bid 2nt and you with Qxxxxx and nothing else presume 3♣ is much better but if you would know your Qxxxxx ♣ , your 2 crappy points are in fact 6 tricks , 3nt is the better option.
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Posted 2011-July-18, 20:34
Rafy don't tell me your hand was this and missed slam ?
Void
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T9xxx
QJTxxx
Void
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T9xxx
QJTxxx
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Posted 2011-July-18, 21:25
I'm passing at the spead of light. My upside is win 1 or 2 on a REALLY good day and the downside is at least a dozen.
If we have a game, my pard already bid.
If we have a game, my pard already bid.
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Posted 2011-July-18, 23:17
I would pass. This hand is not a 2NT bid. You have 5 tricks and that is it. If you double what is poor partner supposed to do with a 2443 shape? You want to play 3D in your 4-2 fit? Sure you may have a 4-4 C fit. You may well not though as well.
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Posted 2011-July-19, 04:55
Clear pass imo.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
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Posted 2011-July-19, 06:14
pass
Opener didn't pass 2♥ so he'll be short. This means partner will have some ♥s but didn't Dbl 2♥ for penalties. Therefore partner is weak and we better pass.
Opener didn't pass 2♥ so he'll be short. This means partner will have some ♥s but didn't Dbl 2♥ for penalties. Therefore partner is weak and we better pass.
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Posted 2011-July-19, 13:14
This rates to be a partscore at best. Pard may have 0 hcp, but he may easily have the ♠10, in which case this goes down no sweat.
If you can't stand to pass, by all means bid 2NT or 3♣ (there's a good chance pard has 4 of them), but pass is more likely to be your best bet here.
If you can't stand to pass, by all means bid 2NT or 3♣ (there's a good chance pard has 4 of them), but pass is more likely to be your best bet here.
teams 2♥ alerted as nonforcing Playing with an expert friend . He passed. Can you ever consider passing this because I cant.
IMO 2N = 10, P = 9, _X = 6.
Pass is sensible. Anything else may be a charge into the valley of death. If you don't pass, you may prefer 2N to X because, when partner has nothing, you can struggle in 2N yourself rather than watch partner suffering in a 4-2 ♦ fit. Lacking relevant agreements, there are additional dangers. For example will partner treat 2N as natural or unusual? If natural, what do advancer's bids mean?