[MrAce]

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IMPS

1♠* = less than 4♠

Expert opps, Std carding.

Lead ♠ J, 3, 4, 6

T2 : ♦3, 2, J, K

Play the rest.

[cloa513]

MrAce, on 2011-July-18, 03:50, said:

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IMPS

1♠* = less than 4♠

Expert opps, Std carding.

Lead ♠ J, 3, 4, 6

T2 : ♦3, 2, J, A

Play the rest.

Your diamond play doesn't stack up you mean won in South with K♦.


Play the clubs low to Q♣,back to K♣ see how they break and who has the A♣. Unlikely to be East but always possible which is obviously the reason for not ducking the diamonds (which is a risk in itself).
Assuming clubs either break nicely or the A♣ is definitely with East, run the clubs, duck one diamond return and obviously win the second, now lead up to the K♠, assume West wins and he either cashes one diamond or has to lead a heart sooner or later South gets in and cashes the clubs, KS and the top hearts.

[gnasher]

LHO apparently has something like Jx Q109xx Qxx Axx or Jx Q109xx Qxxx Ax.

I can cope with the 2533 - duck the first diamond, win the second diamond, cross to a heart and lead a spade up. Later knock out ♣A, cashing ♦A when I'm in dummy with ♣K.

I can't see any way to make against best defence when LHO is 2542 - they always seem to have two diamonds, one club and two spades.

[nige1]

gnasher, on 2011-July-18, 07:16, said:

LHO apparently has something like Jx Q109xx Qxx Axx or Jx Q109xx Qxxx Ax.
I can cope with the 2533 - duck the first diamond, win the second diamond, cross to a heart and lead a spade up. Later knock out ♣A, cashing ♦A when I'm in dummy with ♣K.
I can't see any way to make against best defence when LHO is 2542 - they always seem to have two diamonds, one club and two spades.

Gnasher's line is good except that you need to play on clubs first if LHO holds
♠ Jx ♥Qxxxx ♦ Qxxxx ♣A

[Phil]

gnasher, on 2011-July-18, 07:16, said:

I can't see any way to make against best defence when LHO is 2542 - they always seem to have two diamonds, one club and two spades.

I do not think this statement is 100% true.

[gnasher]

Phil, on 2011-July-18, 11:00, said:

I do not think this statement is 100% true.

Maybe it's not, but are you going to tell us why?

[Phil]

gnasher, on 2011-July-18, 11:46, said:

Maybe it's not, but are you going to tell us why?

If LHO started with ♦Q983, we have him.

If he pitches one diamond, we can play a heart up and a spade, while the diamonds stay blocked. If he pitches a spade, obviously we have an easy throw in.

I started to write a long post and deleted it, but one thing I typed was I like winning the 1st diamond because it may be difficult for LHO to pin our 10, especially if we tempt LHO to win an early club by playing the Q from hand, even if we give up some technical points for Qxx versus Q98x.

[MrAce]

cloa513, on 2011-July-18, 04:48, said:

Your diamond play doesn't stack up you mean won in South with K♦.

Yes i meant won by K, i will correct it thanks.

[MrAce]

gnasher, on 2011-July-18, 07:16, said:

LHO apparently has something like Jx Q109xx Qxx Axx or Jx Q109xx Qxxx Ax.

I can cope with the 2533 - duck the first diamond, win the second diamond, cross to a heart and lead a spade up. Later knock out ♣A, cashing ♦A when I'm in dummy with ♣K.

I can't see any way to make against best defence when LHO is 2542 - they always seem to have two diamonds, one club and two spades.

You did well Andy, West had

Jx
QTxxxx
9xx
Ax

This was a hand from European Jrs. In the original game west led ♥ and it was over for defense. Some commentators said it would be defeated after ♠ J and ♦ shift, which was wrong. ♦ lead would defeat 3 NT but thats way too DD.

[gnasher]

Phil, on 2011-July-18, 11:57, said:

If LHO started with ♦Q983, we have him.

If he pitches one diamond, we can play a heart up and a spade, while the diamonds stay blocked. If he pitches a spade, obviously we have an easy throw in.

That's unusual: he can afford to throw both of his diamonds, but only if he throws them both on the same trick.

[cloa513]

gnasher, on 2011-July-18, 07:16, said:

LHO apparently has something like Jx Q109xx Qxx Axx or Jx Q109xx Qxxx Ax.

I can cope with the 2533 - duck the first diamond, win the second diamond, cross to a heart and lead a spade up. Later knock out ♣A, cashing ♦A when I'm in dummy with ♣K.

I can't see any way to make against best defence when LHO is 2542 - they always seem to have two diamonds, one club and two spades.

Why didn't he lead a low spade - this advanced forum so obviously partner knows he has no chance of setting up his spades unless partner's hand is ideal, its just a lead indicator so he can lead back hearts. I's say obviously the JS is singleton. Then the diamond lead is from four or five.

[MrAce]

cloa513, on 2011-July-18, 17:14, said:

Why didn't he lead a low spade - this advanced forum so obviously partner knows he has no chance of setting up his spades unless partner's hand is ideal, its just a lead indicator so he can lead back hearts. I's say obviously the JS is singleton. Then the diamond lead is from four or five.

East is coming from pass, do u think he did not open 2♠ at these colors with AQ9xxx + stiff or void ♥ ?