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Matchpoints. Both vulnerable.
You hold:
♠AKT7xx
♥x
♦
♣98xxxx
RHO opens 2nt=20-21.
What do you bid now? What is your plan?
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Posted 2011-July-15, 09:35
3♠.
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Posted 2011-July-15, 11:49
ye underbidder
4♠
4♠
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Posted 2011-July-15, 11:53
3♠
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Posted 2011-July-15, 12:39
4♠ for me. Looking forward to seeing more votes.
Personally I prefer some number of Clubs to 3♠ . (good job downvotes are disabled)
Personally I prefer some number of Clubs to 3♠ . (good job downvotes are disabled)
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Psyche (pron. sahy-kee): The human soul, spirit or mind (derived, personification thereof, beloved of Eros, Greek myth).
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str-mnding) tr. v. - Any bid made by bridge player with which partner disagrees."Gentlemen, when the barrage lifts." 9th battalion, King's own Yorkshire light infantry,
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Posted 2011-July-15, 12:47
I'll try 4♠. At IMPs I'd bid 3, but I think putting LHO who rates to have a lot of red cards under a lot of pressure is best. If they manage to sit out 4♠ doubled when it's right, I will be the first to congratulate them.
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Posted 2011-July-15, 12:50
The problem with putting too much pressure on opponents when u bid 4♠ is, you usually end up declaring it doubled 
Not saying it is neccesarilly a bad thing, after all outcome will depend on what pd has and what they have rather than what we bid.
But if we are going to contrast IMP and MP bidding, i would definetely go for 4♠ in imps as oppose to Adam's choice and bid 3♠ in mp. I am expecting a 3♠ bid from majority of the field, but looking at replies here, i may be a bit off on this expectation.
Not saying it is neccesarilly a bad thing, after all outcome will depend on what pd has and what they have rather than what we bid.But if we are going to contrast IMP and MP bidding, i would definetely go for 4♠ in imps as oppose to Adam's choice and bid 3♠ in mp. I am expecting a 3♠ bid from majority of the field, but looking at replies here, i may be a bit off on this expectation.
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"It's only when a mosquito lands on your testicles that you realize there is always a way to solve problems without using violence!"
"Well to be perfectly honest, in my humble opinion, of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view, but also by looking into this matter in a different perspective and without being condemning of one's view's and by trying to make it objectified, and by considering each and every one's valid opinion, I honestly believe that I completely forgot what I was going to say."
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Posted 2011-July-15, 12:50
mtvesuvius, on 2011-July-15, 12:47, said:
I'll try 4♠. At IMPs I'd bid 3, but I think putting LHO who rates to have a lot of red cards under a lot of pressure is best. If they manage to sit out 4♠ doubled when it's right, I will be the first to congratulate them.
The problem with 4♠ is that LHO will be forced to double on a lot of different hands. RHO will always sit.
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Posted 2011-July-15, 14:09
You could also try "extended DONT", i.e. 3♣ as clubs + higher 
And if you're really twisted, 3NT + pull a red bid to spades and hopefully show blacks in the process.
And if you're really twisted, 3NT + pull a red bid to spades and hopefully show blacks in the process.
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Posted 2011-July-15, 14:16
I like this post.
I just pass.
I just pass.
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Posted 2011-July-15, 14:19
whereagles, on 2011-July-15, 14:09, said:
You could also try "extended DONT", i.e. 3♣ as clubs + higher
And if you're really twisted, 3NT + pull a red bid to spades and hopefully show blacks in the process.
And if you're really twisted, 3NT + pull a red bid to spades and hopefully show blacks in the process.
Right. How else would you show a black 2 suiter after all?
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Posted 2011-July-15, 14:21
I double 2NT to show spade and another suit.
DrMunk, on 2011-July-15, 09:28, said:
Matchpoints. Both vulnerable.
You hold:
♠AKT7xx
♥x
♦
♣98xxxx
RHO opens 2nt=20-21.
What do you bid now? What is your plan?
You hold:
♠AKT7xx
♥x
♦
♣98xxxx
RHO opens 2nt=20-21.
What do you bid now? What is your plan?
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Posted 2011-July-15, 15:12
I would bid 4♥ and xx their x.
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Posted 2011-July-15, 15:17
I like 3S and when I go for a number in 3SX I smile thinking about the 4S bidders. 3SX doesn't seem so unlikely, I have only 6 spades.
Partner may raise with a spade fit, I don't bid over 2NT without good shape.
Partner may raise with a spade fit, I don't bid over 2NT without good shape.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
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Posted 2011-July-15, 18:05
I keep my 1NT competing structure over 2C.
I show S+2nd.
I show S+2nd.
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Posted 2011-July-15, 22:39
3NT followed by 4S may be the best post in weeks.
I'd bid 3S at any scoring, who has complicated agreements over 2NT interference anyway?
I'd bid 3S at any scoring, who has complicated agreements over 2NT interference anyway?
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Posted 2011-July-15, 23:09
3S. 4 is simply too much.
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Posted 2011-July-18, 14:44
DrMunk, on 2011-July-15, 09:28, said:
Matchpoints. Both vulnerable.
You hold:
♠AKT7xx
♥x
♦
♣98xxxx
RHO opens 2nt=20-21.
What do you bid now? What is your plan?
You hold:
♠AKT7xx
♥x
♦
♣98xxxx
RHO opens 2nt=20-21.
What do you bid now? What is your plan?
As for planning, you have to think about what you will do if your opponents double you, and what you will do if they bid 4heart(or stops in 3nt).
Here are some different plans:
Plan A: Bid 3 spades.
- When opponents double you might bid clubs or pass.
-When opponents bid 4 hearts you might bid again(Am I crazy, or would bidding 4spades from you show a second suit, since you did not bid 4spades immideatly with a one suited hand?, ie: 2nt-3sp-4h-pass;-pass-4spades=spades and a second suit?)
Plan B: Bid 4 spades: This one seems simple, now you have decided and are usually finnished bidding on this hand. If the opponents double you, you sit. If they bid more you pass.
Plan C: Bid 3 clubs. If opponents double, bid 3 spades. If opponents have bid 4hearts next time, bid 4spades. The downside of this plan are clear: You give the opponents more room,and you might get a club lead from partner if he ends up on lead. The upside is that you can stop as cheaply as possible in 4spades or 5 clubs in your best fit.
Plan D: Bid 4 clubs and then later 4 spades. Same up and downsides as plan C, but more preemptive.
Plan E: Bid 3nt, and later 4spades if somebody bids a red suit..
Plan F: Pass. Not an option for me.
I am still not convinced what is the best plan is. Comments would be appreciated.
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