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#1 User is offline   Phil 

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Posted 2011-July-14, 17:00

♠AT532 ♥AKQ653 ♦K ♣3

Teams, r/w

1♥ - (dbl) - pass - (2♦);
2♠ - (3♦) - pass - (pass);
?

Agree with 2♠? Now what?
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Posted 2011-July-14, 17:11

Pass I've shown my hand.
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Posted 2011-July-14, 17:28

 jmcw, on 2011-July-14, 17:11, said:

Pass I've shown my hand.

3♠ would show your hand, but I'm afraid to do it "red" .... so pass for me too.
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Posted 2011-July-14, 17:29

I might have bid 4♦ instead of 2♠. 3♠ now.

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Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.


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Posted 2011-July-14, 17:45

3♥. I think the passers are crazy.
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Posted 2011-July-14, 19:14

Obvious 3♥ bid IMO.

I could have bid 4♥ too but DBL by LHO slowed me down. About 2♠ bid ... it may help pd to figure how much he can help us, but on the other hand this stiff ♦ K makes me believe they can lead ♠ if i dont mention it at all, which would definetely be a great + in 3-4 ♥. Also mentioning ♠ makes it much easier for opponents to DBL and defend accurately if we are too high already.

I would never consider passing though.
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Posted 2011-July-14, 19:20

 Phil, on 2011-July-14, 17:00, said:

Teams, r/w. ♠AT532 ♥AKQ653 ♦K ♣3
1♥ - (dbl) - pass - (2♦);
2♠ - (3♦) - pass - (pass);
?
Agree with 2♠? Now what?
Close decision. Passing could miss game. Bidding could result in a penalty. but I guess
3♠ = 10, Double = 9, 3♥ = 8, Pass = 7.
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Posted 2011-July-14, 20:43

I can't understand the passers. I would bid 3H which is far superior to 3S in my opinion.
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Posted 2011-July-14, 20:53

I still have AKQxxx of hearts, right?

(3♥)
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Posted 2011-July-14, 21:33

 MrAce, on 2011-July-14, 19:14, said:

Obvious 3♥ bid IMO.

I could have bid 4♥ too but DBL by LHO slowed me down. About 2♠ bid ... it may help pd to figure how much he can help us, but on the other hand this stiff ♦ K makes me believe they can lead ♠ if i dont mention it at all, which would definetely be a great + in 3-4 ♥. Also mentioning ♠ makes it much easier for opponents to DBL and defend accurately if we are too high already.

I would never consider passing though.


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Posted 2011-July-14, 23:32

3H is obvious IMO
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Posted 2011-July-15, 01:15

I must be getting old. I'd pass. I've already reversed at adverse, in a fairly dangerous auction. How much less than this can I have? In the context of having bid 2♠, my spades are awful, my hearts mediocre, and my minor-suit values useless.
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Posted 2011-July-15, 01:20

Agree with Andy (except I know that I am getting old).
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Posted 2011-July-15, 01:52

I would bid 3♥ and also don't understand the passers.
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Posted 2011-July-15, 02:02

 Phil, on 2011-July-14, 17:00, said:

♠AT532 ♥AKQ653 ♦K ♣3

Teams, r/w

1♥ - (dbl) - pass - (2♦);
2♠ - (3♦) - pass - (pass);
?

Agree with 2♠? Now what?



no 2h
2h shows 6h and extras, not minimum.
pard seems to have close to nothing.

lho has spades.

both opp seem to have D.
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now pass I have overbid this hand enough.
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Posted 2011-July-15, 02:32

What kind of hand from partner are the bidders hoping for?
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Posted 2011-July-15, 03:43

This hand doesn't seem strong enough to bid 3♠ with the poor ♠ suit and stiff K♦ when vul. Passing doesn't look great either with a 6-5 and suits headed by A and AKQ. 3♥ is what I'd go for.
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Posted 2011-July-15, 04:49

 mtvesuvius, on 2011-July-14, 17:45, said:

3♥. I think the passers are crazy.


 MrAce, on 2011-July-14, 19:14, said:

Obvious 3♥ bid IMO.
I would never consider passing.


 the hog, on 2011-July-14, 20:43, said:

I can't understand the passers. I would bid 3H

etc, etc.

Oh dear, I can't really understand the bidders - is my judgment really that bad?

What do the bidders think partner will expect them to hold for their 2♠ bid? I do wonder whether those wanting to bid now are suggesting that they don't really trust their partner's judgment. Looking at it another way, I think this hand has a lot of losers unless partner has some sort of fit for the spades, which seems unlikely in view of the take-out double.
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Posted 2011-July-15, 08:28

My first instinct was pass since I have bid 1H and 2S all by myself at unfav didn't I?
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Posted 2011-July-15, 09:06

3♠. Come on, how often are you dealt a 65 with 4 losers?
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