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#1 User is offline   jillybean 

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Posted 2011-July-14, 00:39

A hand from the club tonight....

You hold Q,AK875,KJT,KQJT

partner opens 1N (15-17) in 1st seat

1N:2
2:3
4:4*
5*:6:(X)

*4 is kickback, 5 is 2+Q

LHO doubles 6 pass, pass to you?
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Posted 2011-July-14, 00:46

for starters 3c is gf so what the heck is 4h

in any event this looks like a 6nt hand over 4h

pard has denied super accept/
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Posted 2011-July-14, 00:51

View Postmike777, on 2011-July-14, 00:46, said:

for starters 3c is gf so what the heck is 4h

in any event this looks like a 6nt hand over 4h

pard has denied super accept/


Partner may not have bid 4/3, I've had a couple of wine after the game and don't remember the intervening bids but he did bid
4 at some stage. :D
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Posted 2011-July-14, 02:42

View Postmike777, on 2011-July-14, 00:46, said:

for starters 3c is gf so what the heck is 4h

in any event this looks like a 6nt hand over 4h

pard has denied super accept/

Would you ever bid 3 with say AKJx, QJ, xxxx, Axx ? if not, 4 should be a bad hand in context with 3 PFA.

This looks like a pull to 6N situation, particularly if I trust my opponent not to double on AK. I'd expect LHO to be ruffing the club lead or have 5 hearts or J109x and an A.
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Posted 2011-July-14, 07:28

View PostCyberyeti, on 2011-July-14, 02:42, said:

Would you ever bid 3 with say AKJx, QJ, xxxx, Axx ? if not, 4 should be a bad hand in context with 3 PFA.

This looks like a pull to 6N situation, particularly if I trust my opponent not to double on AK. I'd expect LHO to be ruffing the club lead or have 5 hearts or J109x and an A.

I agree and you should be in 6NT anyway. You've got enough HCPs to make the slam easily and since you're off an ace it's not like you're going to be in 6+7 to beat 6NT.

I'm assuming it's matchpoints.

Edit: Anyway, Cyberyeti, he can't have AK of spades because your partner has at least 15 HCP, you have 19, and the estimated 7 by opponent (AK) = 41. There aren't that many points in the deck.
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Posted 2011-July-14, 09:05

you could make it tough on the opening leader by just bidding 6NT at your first turn.
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Posted 2011-July-14, 09:15

This is an easy 6N call on the prior round. We can't be off the AK unless partner upgraded, and its not clear that occurred.

However, when our RHO doubles we now have an interesting proposition with +1210. Is my RHO good where I can expect a club getting ruffed? Or did they just make some random double with the A. Maybe they are being sharp with Axxxxx knowing partner can lead their club and get a ruff.

Anyway, I'm bidding 6N. This usually gets doubled out of spite, and I expect a very good score for this. Maybe I'll send it back and teach the person a lesson!
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Posted 2011-July-14, 10:22

View Postpooltuna, on 2011-July-14, 09:05, said:

you could make it tough on the opening leader by just bidding 6NT at your first turn.

You could also find your partner holding:
AJ10
QJxx
Ax
Axxx

Two people playing 7C+7
You playing 6NT+6 cuz you guessed the finesse wrong, and
Everyone else in 6H+7.
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Posted 2011-July-14, 11:17

Partners hand was K953, QT3, AQ83, A9 The double saved us, I should have bid 6N without it.

The doublers hand was AJT6, J9642, x, xxx, another hand to add to my list of reasons why not to
double a slam.
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Posted 2011-July-14, 14:00

View PostVM1973, on 2011-July-14, 07:28, said:

Edit: Anyway, Cyberyeti, he can't have AK of spades because your partner has at least 15 HCP, you have 19, and the estimated 7 by opponent (AK) = 41. There aren't that many points in the deck.

I'd open a 15-17 NT on J1098, QJ10, AQxx, Ax and bid 4 over 3.
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Posted 2011-July-14, 17:02

View PostCyberyeti, on 2011-July-14, 14:00, said:

I'd open a 15-17 NT on J1098, QJ10, AQxx, Ax and bid 4 over 3.


I would bid 6nt and watch them proudly cash the AK. Check for Grosvenor in their profile
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Posted 2011-July-15, 00:08

View PostVM1973, on 2011-July-14, 10:22, said:

You could also find your partner holding:
AJ10
QJxx
Ax
Axxx

Two people playing 7C+7
You playing 6NT+6 cuz you guessed the finesse wrong, and
Everyone else in 6H+7.


sure that can happen so you need a policy see http://www.lloyds.com/
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