[dickiegera]

West is dealer both white matchpoints

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How do you bid this to 6 Clubs?

[mike777]

2c=2d=
3c=4c
4d(rkc)=5c(2 with q)
5d(grand try)=6c


many will hate 2c

[semeai]

1C (3H) X (4H)
6C!?

or uncontested?

[whereagles]

Reaching 6♣ here on a natural auction is too hard, as the key card is the diamond jack... I think 99% of the players will reach 3NT after something like

1♣ 1♠
3♣ 3NT

[TWO4BRIDGE]

dickiegera, on 2011-July-15, 21:41, said:

West is dealer both white matchpoints

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How do you bid this to 6 Clubs?

Dickie..., you posted a similar situation on July 5th ( in the B & I forum ) : http://www.bridgebas...s-how-many-pts/

There, paulg offered a good solution: to open 1C and make an artifical 2D! reverse to establish a GF with a follow-up bid showing a long Club suit.
[ It is the only artifical Reverse sequence needed to establish a GF ( 1C open and 1S response; all others have jump-shifts available to GF ) ] .

Here however, partner will make an immediate 3C GF rebid ( 2H! would be Lebensohl as the start of a sign-off):

1C - 1S
2D! - 3C ( GF )
4C! ( Minorwood after agreement in a GF situation) - 4NT! ( 4th step = 2 + cQ )
5D! ( kickback for specific K's ) - 6C ( "ain't got any" )

[dickiegera]

TWO4BRIDGE, on 2011-July-16, 07:16, said:

Dickie..., you posted a similar situation on July 5th ( in the B & I forum ) : http://www.bridgebas...s-how-many-pts/

There, paulg offered a good solution: to open 1C and make an artifical 2D! reverse to establish a GF with a follow-up bid showing a long Club suit.
[ It is the only artifical Reverse sequence needed to establish a GF ( 1C open and 1S response; all others have jump-shifts available to GF ) ] .

Here however, partner will make an immediate 3C GF rebid ( 2H! would be Lebensohl as the start of a sign-off):

1C - 1S
2D! - 3C ( GF )
4C! ( Minorwood after agreement in a GF situation) - 4NT! ( 4th step = 2 + cQ )
5D! ( kickback for specific K's ) - 6C ( "ain't got any" )

Thank you. My partner opened 5♣ and thats where we played it. Your suggestion of reversing with 2♦ was exactly what I told partner how the bidding should have gone. In fact your auction including minorwood [ we use kickback] was exactly what we came up with afterwords.

We were interested if someone might have anything else that was logical.
Thanks again

[P_Marlowe]

whereagles, on 2011-July-16, 05:24, said:

Reaching 6♣ here on a natural auction is too hard, as the key card is the diamond jack... I think 99% of the players will reach 3NT after something like

1♣ 1♠
3♣ 3NT

I am not so sure, opener has a 8 card suit, ..., so you will also have lots of company in 5C,
at least playing IMPs.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[matmat]

whereagles, on 2011-July-16, 05:24, said:

Reaching 6♣ here on a natural auction is too hard, as the key card is the diamond jack... I think 99% of the players will reach 3NT after something like

1♣ 1♠
3♣ 3NT

This auction is ridiculous enough to hurt my eyes. Did opener really just make a non-forcing call with a good 8 card suit and a side AQx? did responder really just bid 3nt with 4 card support, two side controls and a slow/dubious stopper in diamonds?

[ArtK78]

matmat, on 2011-July-19, 11:48, said:

This auction is ridiculous enough to hurt my eyes. Did opener really just make a non-forcing call with a good 8 card suit and a side AQx? did responder really just bid 3nt with 4 card support, two side controls and a slow/dubious stopper in diamonds?

How else can you arrive at 3NT?

[han]

I'd open 1C. The hand is too strong for 5C. I don't like to open 2C on such a hand, there is little risk of 1C being passed out.

After 1C - 1S, it seems normal to bid 2D. The hand is far too strong to bid 3C and there is no other alternative.

After 2D, east should jump to 4C to show his great 4+ support and his slam suitable hand. West will end up asking for keycards, but east won't cooperate with a grand slam try.

[Cascade]

whereagles, on 2011-July-16, 05:24, said:

Reaching 6♣ here on a natural auction is too hard, as the key card is the diamond jack... I think 99% of the players will reach 3NT after something like

1♣ 1♠
3♣ 3NT

Disagree.

I want to be in 6♣ if you take away the ♦J.

We are (very) close to 100% on a diamond lead and better than 50% on any other lead.

If I knew partner had two key-cards (aces) and four clubs I want to play slam without knowing another card in her hand.

[Cyberyeti]

Well I'd start the auction with 1♣-2♣(inverted 10+ not denying 4M) so all would be easy, but otherwise the 2♦ reverse is best if you're playing standard methods. We have a GF unbalanced 2N rebid available which would also help a lot on this hand if not playing this sort of inverted minor.

It could be worse, partner could have four small clubs and K♦ instead of J for the laydown grand played in 3N.

[aguahombre]

han, on 2011-July-20, 06:08, said:

After 2D, east should jump to 4C to show his great 4+ support and his slam suitable hand. West will end up asking for keycards, but east won't cooperate with a grand slam try.

With 3C available to show extras, and Leben available to deny them, the space consuming jump to 4C will not amuse a partner who would have liked to employ Minorwood.

[peachy]

I think somebody is going to bid hearts so the auction will be contested. If by a miracle, it is uncontested 1C-1S-2D-3C (GF, while 2S would be neutral and 2H or 2NT - depending on agreements, would be conventional)
and off we go to finding out.