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#1 User is offline   mtvesuvius 

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Posted 2011-June-12, 20:15



Two questions here...

Do you think you have enough to make a double/some other call?

... Say you pass over 3♣, LHO passes, and partner backs in with 3♦. What now?
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Posted 2011-June-12, 22:26

Just because I wouldn't double doesn't mean I would pass. 3D seems like a fine bid.
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Posted 2011-June-12, 22:36

Armed with the information that pard backs in with 3D if I pass, I can say I would have preferred to bid 3D instead of passing.

Since I chose to pass (reasonable), I am not well placed now. Pard's reopening is too wide-ranging to make a rational choice at this point. Will stick with the pass and hate it. If I feel like punishing pard for reopening, I guess I could try 3S which he will have no reason to believe is a game try with diamonds.
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Posted 2011-June-12, 22:45

I am coming from pass, and i also passed 3♣, and pd saw them both still bidding 3♦.

I am aware onlything we make can be 3♦, but sometimes preempts win, i will show my fit. 4♣ or 4♦, probably 4♣.

He did not balance with DBL but that doesnt mean he is weak. A Axx AQJxxx xxx was he supposed to DBL with this ?
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Posted 2011-June-13, 00:32

Why would I pass over 3C?
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Posted 2011-June-13, 00:44

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Posted 2011-June-13, 10:25

Another direct 3♦ bidder. This hand is worth only 1 bid and support is the only possible one, so that's what I do. If pard happens to have 4432... well though sht.
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Posted 2011-June-13, 11:05

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Posted 2011-June-13, 12:18

Really? 3♦ on this? I didn't think it was enough for anything here, but I guess I'm a bit paranoid... Meh.
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Posted 2011-June-13, 13:31

View Postmtvesuvius, on 2011-June-13, 12:18, said:

Really? 3♦ on this? I didn't think it was enough for anything here, but I guess I'm a bit paranoid... Meh.

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Posted 2011-June-13, 13:42

I am with the immediate 3D bidders here. What do you think you need to bid 3D directly over 3C?
If I didn't bid 3D I would double (and pass 3H). Passing over 3C seems like a great way to concede a double partial swing at best.
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Posted 2011-June-13, 16:28

3♦ is pretty clear IMO

Can't handle a 3♥ bid from partner if I X, but if I bid 3♦, if partner advances with 3♥ I bid 3♠ and if he advances with 3♠ I raise.
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Posted 2011-June-13, 21:48

I can double here as part of a xfer scheme,
showing D-support and exploring values.
I have stronger fit bids and non-fit bids.
If I get 3S, 4S. 3NT, P. 3H, 3S.
That's about right on values I have.
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Posted 2011-June-14, 02:20

View Postdake50, on 2011-June-13, 21:48, said:

I can double here as part of a xfer scheme,
showing D-support and exploring values.

That doesn't sound right. How do you find 4-4 fits in majors?
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Posted 2011-June-14, 06:55

"That doesn't sound right. How do you find 4-4 fits in majors?" -- gwnn
** As I said and suggested as rebids, 3S -> 4S, 3H -> 3S, haven't we found 4-4M?
** Since X promises 4D is okay, these tries are clear.
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Posted 2011-June-15, 04:07

Unfortunately I don't quite understand your post dake50.

I thought by transfer scheme you meant

X=4+♦
3♦=hearts
3♥=spades
3♠=clubs or balanced or something like that

Now if 3♦ and 3♥ promise 5 cards (in the respective major suits) and X promises 4 diamonds, what do you do with

Axxx
AKxx
xx
Jxx

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