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Posted 2011-June-01, 12:08
IMPs, E/W are silent otherwise
I once yelled at my partner for discarding the 'wrong' card when he was subjected to a squeeze that I allowed by giving the wrong count with too high a card. Now he's allowed to pitch aces when the opponents have the king in the dummy. At trick 2. When he could have followed suit. And blame me.
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Posted 2011-June-01, 13:49
X by North doesn't look crazy. 4♠ by South doesn't either.
wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:
Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.
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Posted 2011-June-01, 14:39
Certainly there are two possible actions by North - Double and Pass. I don't think either one would be crazy. With this shape I don't think the hand is good enough for a double, but others may have a different opinion.
Over a double, South's action is clear cut - 4♠. I don't know why anyone would bid anything else.
Over a pass, South MIGHT balance, but that action is hardly clear.
Over a double, South's action is clear cut - 4♠. I don't know why anyone would bid anything else.
Over a pass, South MIGHT balance, but that action is hardly clear.
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Posted 2011-June-01, 15:19
I could understand a double by North, and South should definitely bid 4♠ in this case.
I think balancing with the South hand is taking quite a position. I wouldn't even think of it at this vulnerability. And even at favorable it's a stretch, since the opponents haven't bid a game.
I think balancing with the South hand is taking quite a position. I wouldn't even think of it at this vulnerability. And even at favorable it's a stretch, since the opponents haven't bid a game.
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Posted 2011-June-01, 19:49
I would DBL with N hand. Yes i dont have short ♣ but i have at least 3 cards in all unbid suits and 16 hcp. Preempter has 7 or 8♣, when combined with mine 10 or 11 ♣, pd is likely to be short in that suit and i have good support for whichever is his long suit and hope for the best.
On the other hand i would defienetely not balance with South hand if N passes, no way. This kinda weak balance, over a 4 level preempt, gives WAY too wide range for the guy who bid at 4th seat and i dont think it can be handled effectively in the long run.
On the other hand i would defienetely not balance with South hand if N passes, no way. This kinda weak balance, over a 4 level preempt, gives WAY too wide range for the guy who bid at 4th seat and i dont think it can be handled effectively in the long run.
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Posted 2011-June-02, 01:30
I vote that Ken Rexford is crazy.
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Posted 2011-June-02, 04:19
I would have passed the North hand, intending to pass again to pard's take out dbl, so probably a missed game for me here.
The point is if pard is going to bid a 4 card major suit over my dbl, this is certainly going to be an uphill battle on the obvious club force. Even with a 5-3 fit it's not certain 4M makes (here it definitely isn't going to be a piece of cake if trumps are 4-1).
The point is if pard is going to bid a 4 card major suit over my dbl, this is certainly going to be an uphill battle on the obvious club force. Even with a 5-3 fit it's not certain 4M makes (here it definitely isn't going to be a piece of cake if trumps are 4-1).
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Posted 2011-June-02, 05:34
When I wrote my post I meant that X by North seemed fine and after that 4♠ by South.
If North decides to Pass South cannot bid unless his/her partner took a long time before passing. And that was sarcastic.
If North decides to Pass South cannot bid unless his/her partner took a long time before passing. And that was sarcastic.
wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:
Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.
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Posted 2011-June-02, 08:08
whereagles, on 2011-June-02, 04:19, said:
The point is if pard is going to bid a 4 card major suit over my dbl, this is certainly going to be an uphill battle on the obvious club force. Even with a 5-3 fit it's not certain 4M makes (here it definitely isn't going to be a piece of cake if trumps are 4-1).
The good news is, only 13 ♣ in the deck and the guy with long trumps won't be the ones with long trumps.
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Posted 2011-June-02, 09:01
CSGibson, on 2011-June-02, 01:30, said:
I vote that Ken Rexford is crazy.
He's just " sanely-challenged " ...
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Posted 2011-June-02, 09:05
CSGibson, on 2011-June-02, 01:30, said:
I vote that Ken Rexford is crazy.
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I can't wait to see his response to Fred's comment that Qxxx Kx AKQx xxx shouldn't bid 2♣ over 1♥ on Hand 3.
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Posted 2011-June-02, 14:00
4C X p 4S is completely normal. You cannot pass with the north hand lol, you have a prime 16 with no honors in clubs. It is putting way too much pressure on partner to act with short clubs and a yarborough, he won't. This hand, partner had 2 queens and two jacks, and game is extremely good. Sometimes he has even more than that! Partner having a stiff club is not a huge surprise when we have 3 small and they open 4C...
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Posted 2011-June-02, 17:05
To be clear, 4♠ after X by N is the obvious part to me, I was more wondering how crazy 4♠ is after a pass by N. (In addition to whether N should X)
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I once yelled at my partner for discarding the 'wrong' card when he was subjected to a squeeze that I allowed by giving the wrong count with too high a card. Now he's allowed to pitch aces when the opponents have the king in the dummy. At trick 2. When he could have followed suit. And blame me.
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Posted 2011-June-02, 17:23
I Double with the North hand any VuL any Scoring. South can bid 4♠ don't see a problem.
If for some reason North passes then South should pass hesitation or not.
If for some reason North passes then South should pass hesitation or not.
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Posted 2011-June-03, 00:20
No one yet has anylysed the 4 cl bid-off course pard must take action,
with a x-------- after you bid 4 sp-now another problem arises.
the 4cl bids 5 clubs-----------
For north to pass 4cl is unheard off also opp has not opened 3n/t
so unlikly to have ace hts-and his clubs could be AQJ+
and hold K diamonds--so south could back in again with 5 diamonds.
that will sort it out
with a x-------- after you bid 4 sp-now another problem arises.
the 4cl bids 5 clubs-----------
For north to pass 4cl is unheard off also opp has not opened 3n/t
so unlikly to have ace hts-and his clubs could be AQJ+
and hold K diamonds--so south could back in again with 5 diamonds.
that will sort it out
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Posted 2011-June-03, 00:56
If North doesn't Dbl he's a wuss (but not crazy). If South responds anything else than 4♠ he's crazy.
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Posted 2011-June-09, 00:29
Free, on 2011-June-03, 00:56, said:
If North doesn't Dbl he's a wuss (but not crazy). If South responds anything else than 4♠ he's crazy.
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Posted 2011-June-09, 03:27
Hi,
I think at the table I would have passed with the North hand, but the argument,
that we know, where 10 clubs are, and that p holds on avergage at most 2, makes
double very attractive - since he wont have the power to get in.
We know, that our side owns the deck, p does not know this.
With kind regards
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I think at the table I would have passed with the North hand, but the argument,
that we know, where 10 clubs are, and that p holds on avergage at most 2, makes
double very attractive - since he wont have the power to get in.
We know, that our side owns the deck, p does not know this.
With kind regards
Marlowe
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