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Many top players suggest to play 1X-p-1Y-1NT as a natural 1NT overcall. I've seen all the arguments pro and con, so I don't want to start that discussion again.
What I do want to know is how you continue the auction? What is 2X, 2Y, 2 of a new suit, 2NT, 3 of a new suit, 3X, 3Y,...? (or do you just play system on?)
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natural 1NT in sandwich position
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Posted 2010-November-10, 04:23
Depends on who I am playing with. In the one case where this is both fully documented and I can trust partner to remember what we have agreed then all bids are natural, including 2C, 2X and 2Y.
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Posted 2010-November-10, 04:30
Unless you have a partner with good memory (assuming you have it, too) I'd recommend system on.
I don't like a natural 1NT in that position though. It's so rarely seen...
I don't like a natural 1NT in that position though. It's so rarely seen...
wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:
Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.
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Posted 2010-November-10, 04:31
We play:
(1♣) - P - (1♦) - 1NT (P)
2♣ = natural,sign off
2♦ = stayman
2M = natural, sign off
2NT = invitational
3♣ = natural, invitational
3♦ = stop ask (typ 3316)
3M = shortage
(1m) - P - (1M) - 1NT (P)
2m = natural,sign off
2M = stayman
2OM = natural, sign off
2NT = invitational
3m = natural, invitational
3M = shortage
(1♥) - P - (1♠) - 1NT (P)
2m = natural,sign off
2♥ = stayman
2♠ = natural, sign off
2NT = invitational
3m = natural, invitational
3M = shortage
(1♣) - P - (1♦) - 1NT (P)
2♣ = natural,sign off
2♦ = stayman
2M = natural, sign off
2NT = invitational
3♣ = natural, invitational
3♦ = stop ask (typ 3316)
3M = shortage
(1m) - P - (1M) - 1NT (P)
2m = natural,sign off
2M = stayman
2OM = natural, sign off
2NT = invitational
3m = natural, invitational
3M = shortage
(1♥) - P - (1♠) - 1NT (P)
2m = natural,sign off
2♥ = stayman
2♠ = natural, sign off
2NT = invitational
3m = natural, invitational
3M = shortage
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Posted 2010-November-10, 04:53
Hi,
System on.
Playing 2M as natural, even if the have shown 4 cards, is not uncommon,
in the seq.
1X - (Pass) - 1Y - ???
2X / Y - can be played as natural, and it gets played as natural.
With kind regards
Marlowe
System on.
Playing 2M as natural, even if the have shown 4 cards, is not uncommon,
in the seq.
1X - (Pass) - 1Y - ???
2X / Y - can be played as natural, and it gets played as natural.
With kind regards
Marlowe
With kind regards
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
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Posted 2011-May-28, 08:24
If my partner isn't passed hand than 1nt is natural (15-17-balanced with stopper in both suit) and system is ON, if my partner is passed hand than 1nt overcall is sandwich with continues:
2 in new suit preference
2 in one of opponents suit, ask for stopper, forcing
2nt stops in both opponents suit, suggestion of contract
3 in new suit, pressing (4+ cards in bid suit)
3nt stops in both opponents suit, stop bid
4 in new suit, stop bid
2 in new suit preference
2 in one of opponents suit, ask for stopper, forcing
2nt stops in both opponents suit, suggestion of contract
3 in new suit, pressing (4+ cards in bid suit)
3nt stops in both opponents suit, stop bid
4 in new suit, stop bid
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Posted 2011-May-29, 14:00
paulg, on 2010-November-10, 04:31, said:
We play:
(1m) - P - (1M) - 1NT (P)
2NT = invitational
(1m) - P - (1M) - 1NT (P)
2NT = invitational
If they haven't shaded their bids, your side can only have 22 HCP.
Why would you need an invitational bid?
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Posted 2011-May-29, 14:11
jogs, on 2011-May-29, 14:00, said:
If they haven't shaded their bids, your side can only have 22 HCP.
Actually, 40-10-4=26. Welcome to the 21st century.
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Posted 2011-May-29, 14:11
jogs, on 2011-May-29, 14:00, said:
If they haven't shaded their bids, your side can only have 22 HCP.
Why would you need an invitational bid?
Why would you need an invitational bid?
In the modern game, they could have 10 opposite 2.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2011-May-29, 14:28
gnasher, on 2011-May-29, 14:11, said:
In the modern game, they could have 10 opposite 0.
FYP. Not sure why 2 vs 0 matters much in responding, I would probably rather have 0. I doubt anyone is passing with something like xxxx xxxxxx xxx --- over 1C p ?
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Posted 2011-June-01, 15:53
After 1X p 1Y 1NT P
if 1Y is natural (or shows a particular suit, such as a transfer response) then
- 2Y is a cue bid (usually looking for a fit in the other major)
- 2 any other suit natural and weak
- 2NT invitational
- 3suit natural and forcing, but that bit has never come up.
If 1Y is artificial (e.g. 1 polish club P 1D negative, or 1 short club P 1S no 4-card major) then
- 2C is Stayman/cue bid
- 2 anything else natural and weak
- 3C natural and weak
if 1Y is natural (or shows a particular suit, such as a transfer response) then
- 2Y is a cue bid (usually looking for a fit in the other major)
- 2 any other suit natural and weak
- 2NT invitational
- 3suit natural and forcing, but that bit has never come up.
If 1Y is artificial (e.g. 1 polish club P 1D negative, or 1 short club P 1S no 4-card major) then
- 2C is Stayman/cue bid
- 2 anything else natural and weak
- 3C natural and weak
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Posted 2011-June-01, 16:32
FrancesHinden, on 2011-June-01, 15:53, said:
If 1Y is artificial (e.g. 1 polish club P 1D negative, or 1 short club P 1S no 4-card major) then
- 2C is Stayman/cue bid
- 2 anything else natural and weak
- 3C natural and weak
- 2C is Stayman/cue bid
- 2 anything else natural and weak
- 3C natural and weak
Nice. Not having played against Polish and the 1S response denying a major very often, that scheme would not have occured to us until after we had been frozen out of our 4-4 major fit when advancer to the Sandwich NT did not have clear invite values. Now, we are prepared.
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Posted 2011-June-01, 16:39
Opportunities for a natural Sandwich 1N overcall are rare but I think it is a useful bid. System-on (e.g. Stayman and 4-suit transfers) works well. Your best contract may be in one of opponent's suits. Unless you are a professional or have a lot of time to devote to Bridge, I feel that adopting a new set of conventional responses is a waste of time and an unnecessary burden on memory..
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