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Poll: Seven solid (47 member(s) have cast votes)

RHO open 1H, with both vulnerable at IMPs. You have AKQJ10xx 8x 7xx x. What do you do?

  1. 1S (9 votes [19.15%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 19.15%

  2. 2S (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  3. 3S (5 votes [10.64%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 10.64%

  4. 4S (32 votes [68.09%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 68.09%

  5. Other (1 votes [2.13%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 2.13%

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#1 User is offline   gnasher 

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Posted 2011-May-22, 02:48

I'm not sure that I'd call this an "interesting bridge hand", but I had to put it somewhere.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2011-May-22, 04:48

4S, automatic. Of course I'd prefer a stiff heart but whatever
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Posted 2011-May-22, 05:56

View PostJLOGIC, on 2011-May-22, 04:48, said:

4S, automatic. Of course I'd prefer a stiff heart but whatever

Same, 3 is not totally silly, I'm sure as this has been posted that 3N is the right spot :)
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Posted 2011-May-22, 07:06

View PostCyberyeti, on 2011-May-22, 05:56, said:

Same, 3 is not totally silly, I'm sure as this has been posted that 3N is the right spot :)

Yes, that's right. I posted it because I wanted to watch all you lemmings bid 4, then triumphantly show you a full hand where something else would have worked.

Or maybe I posted it because I wanted to know what people would bid.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2011-May-22, 07:16

View PostJLOGIC, on 2011-May-22, 04:48, said:

4S, automatic. Of course I'd prefer a stiff heart but whatever



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Posted 2011-May-22, 08:31

View Postgnasher, on 2011-May-22, 07:06, said:


Or maybe I posted it because I wanted to know what people would bid.


The problem with these polls is that there's no way to grade one's opinions. For me, on the three hands you have posted

- On one of them (this one) I would bid 3S, but I have no objection to 4S and certainly don't think it is 'wrong'
- On one of them I wouldn't overcall 1H myself, but I can see it might work well (and the consequences of the action chosen at the table were not solely down to the decision on whether or not to overcall 1H at this point)
- On the third one I think a 2C overcall is revolting and a 1S overcall horrible. I feel really strongly about that one, I don't feel so strongly about the other two but there's no way to show that in the poll.

Perhaps it is better to do these polls giving the table action and asking if posters strongly agree, mildly agree, have no preference, mildly disagree, strongly disagree etc
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Posted 2011-May-22, 14:27

View PostFrancesHinden, on 2011-May-22, 08:31, said:

Perhaps it is better to do these polls giving the table action anTd asking if posters strongly agree, mildly agree, have no preference, mildly disagree, strongly disagree etc


The reason for not posting a whole hand is that people are rarely objective. Most people would 'result' and I suppose that's what's being avoided by presenting only one hand.

 wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the 3.


 rbforster, on 2012-May-20, 21:04, said:

Besides playing for fun, most people also like to play bridge to win


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Posted 2011-May-22, 15:10

View PostHanoi5, on 2011-May-22, 14:27, said:

The reason for not posting a whole hand is that people are rarely objective. Most people would 'result' and I suppose that's what's being avoided by presenting only one hand.

I don't think Frances was suggesting posting the whole deal - she meant that I should post a single hand with the action that was chosen at the table.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2011-May-22, 15:55

View Postgnasher, on 2011-May-22, 15:10, said:

I don't think Frances was suggesting posting the whole deal - she meant that I should post a single hand with the action that was chosen at the table.



But nearly always the action chosen will have led to some disaster otherwise the hand more than likely wouldn't be posted.
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Posted 2011-May-22, 16:06

3S seemed adequate to me.
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Posted 2011-May-22, 16:27

View Posthatchett, on 2011-May-22, 15:55, said:

But nearly always the action chosen will have led to some disaster otherwise the hand more than likely wouldn't be posted.

I can't speak for anybody else, but when I post a bidding problem it's because I was unsure of the correct action, or somebody disagreed with my action, or I disagreed with somebody else's action.

On the three hands I posted today, four different actions were taken. Only one of the actions taken led to a clearcut disaster.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2011-May-23, 06:55

I would like to bid a jump-cue of 3, asking for a stopper. In absence of that, 4 seems canonical.
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Posted 2011-May-23, 09:29

View Postwhereagles, on 2011-May-23, 06:55, said:

I would like to bid a jump-cue of 3, asking for a stopper.


Do you mean 3 asking for a stopper in all the suits apart from ?
Back in the real world I can't imagine wanting to ask if partner has a heart stopper with this hand.
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Posted 2011-May-23, 16:22

View Posthatchett, on 2011-May-23, 09:29, said:

Do you mean 3 asking for a stopper in all the suits apart from ?


No, just hearts. I only worry about opponent's bid suit. You can't cater for all suits anyway.
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Posted 2011-May-23, 16:50

IMO 4 = 10, 3 = 9, 1 = 7, 2 = 6, 3 = 5, _X = 4, 1N = 3, _P = 1
To try to provide his subjective estimate of the relative merits of some possible calls,.a commentator may allot marks out of ten to them
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Posted 2011-May-24, 14:44

Looks like a 4S bid.

View Postgnasher, on 2011-May-22, 02:48, said:

I'm not sure that I'd call this an "interesting bridge hand", but I had to put it somewhere.

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Posted 2011-May-25, 02:40

View PostJLOGIC, on 2011-May-22, 04:48, said:

4S, automatic. Of course I'd prefer a stiff heart but whatever
I think Robson and Segal would prefer four hearts to a singleton.
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Posted 2011-May-25, 07:58

Difficult one, I think I'd go with 1.
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Posted 2011-June-01, 15:42

View PostFrancesHinden, on 2011-May-22, 08:31, said:

On the third one I think a 2C overcall is revolting and a 1S overcall horrible.<snip>

Perhaps it is better to do these polls giving the table action and asking if posters strongly agree, mildly agree, have no preference, mildly disagree, strongly disagree etc

One might be completely opposed to one candidate, such as the BNP, at an election, but one can only vote for one person; having degrees of preference in a poll sounds like an AV and complicates them. However, the polls on here all come with the scope to post a thread, so one can add to one's vote by expressing suitable opinions. I presume I know the one where the revolting 2C overcall was made and I concur.
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Posted 2011-June-01, 18:23

after 1 ht -my preference is 2sp-either LH opp has values and support
for pard-so its their hand -but it puts MY pard in the driving seat,
he also knows my suit is good-so can up the anti to 4spades..
if they bid 4 hts over my 2sp.
Disadvantage of 3sp or 4sp opps bid 4h over 3sp-and 5hts over 4 sp
giving my partner no chance.
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