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Two non-solid suits

Poll: Two non-solid suits (54 member(s) have cast votes)

It goes pass-1D to you, favourable at IMPs. You have KQ8x 98 10x KJ654. What do you do?

  1. Pass (43 votes [79.63%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 79.63%

  2. 1S (4 votes [7.41%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 7.41%

  3. 2C (7 votes [12.96%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 12.96%

  4. 3C (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  5. Other (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#1 User is offline   gnasher 

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Posted 2011-May-22, 05:39

I promise that this is the last one.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2011-May-22, 07:47

I'm short in HCP's for going to the 2-lvl and missing one honour (and maybe also a couple of HCP's) for the spade suit to be biddable at the one level. I'm sure these questions have a point, I wonder what it is...

 wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.


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Posted 2011-May-22, 09:59

Pass.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2011-May-22, 10:40

Pass. Doesn't really need a comment does it.
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Posted 2011-May-22, 21:35

There's a reason why I have a gadget for these 4-5s. :)

In the absense of a toy, I try 1S with a partner who is unlikely to take offence to it, and pass with one who will. I am not happy with any of the 4 calls available in garden variety standard.
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Posted 2011-May-23, 01:05

pass
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Posted 2011-May-23, 06:51

I'd try my luck with 1♠.
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Posted 2011-May-25, 02:47

IMO P = 10, 1♠ = 8, 2♣ = 4, X = 1
To consider a 1♠ overcall on a four-card suit, I like to have at least ♠ KQTx
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Posted 2011-May-25, 07:53

I don't like overcalling with such hands, but we're favorable, have a passed partner, and it's 1♦-2♣ (one of Sabine's favorites). So yeah, I'll bid 2♣, but I'm not claiming it's good bridge.
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Posted 2011-May-25, 08:47

Pass.
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Posted 2011-May-25, 09:42

Pass.

I like overcalling 2♣ over 1♦ as much as anyone, but I would prefer a spade lead to a club lead, so why should I tell partner to lead a club?
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Posted 2011-May-31, 13:18

Are you ever going to tell people what happened?
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Posted 2011-May-31, 14:07

PASS not even tempted to a black suit.
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Posted 2011-May-31, 15:15

Clearly pass is sound. But I like two clubs, because it interferes to some extent with oppos bidding.

With my concentration of values I am not bothered if partner gets excited with several clubs.
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Posted 2011-May-31, 16:15

I have read some books bout bidding, u know those with plenty of pictures :D . Pass comes first in my mind, but then again in Lawrences complete book of overcalls he recommeds bidding even with this kind of hands and since he is Mike Lawrence and im virtually nobody my vote goes to 1 ♠.
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Posted 2011-May-31, 16:35

Just another perfecto for Raptor 1NT.
Here, it means one unspecified major plus longer other minor.
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Posted 2011-May-31, 17:12

View PostFrancesHinden, on 2011-May-31, 13:18, said:

Are you ever going to tell people what happened?

I wasn't planning to. Do you think it's interesting?

Oh alright then: partner had Axx QJ10xx xxx 9x. RHO was 3451 with ♣10.

At Frances's table this hand overcalled 1♠, thereby ensuring that Frances and her partner didn't bid a 50% 24-point 3NT. At my table, I made a rather undisciplined 2♣ overcall, and went for 500.

So compared with pass, a 1♠ overcall either gains 10 or breaks even, and a 2♣ overcall either gains 3 or loses 8. I don't think you can infer much from this single piece of data - I posted the hand because I wanted to know what other people would do, not because I thought there was anything special about the actual deal.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2011-May-31, 20:25

1NT playing PNT else 1S.
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Posted 2011-June-01, 15:03

View Postgnasher, on 2011-May-31, 17:12, said:

I wasn't planning to. Do you think it's interesting?

Oh alright then: partner had Axx QJ10xx xxx 9x. RHO was 3451 with ♣10.

At Frances's table this hand overcalled 1♠, thereby ensuring that Frances and her partner didn't bid a 50% 24-point 3NT. At my table, I made a rather undisciplined 2♣ overcall, and went for 500.

So compared with pass, a 1♠ overcall either gains 10 or breaks even, and a 2♣ overcall either gains 3 or loses 8. I don't think you can infer much from this single piece of data - I posted the hand because I wanted to know what other people would do, not because I thought there was anything special about the actual deal.


If you are going to say what happened, you should get the hand right. Partner had Axx QJ10xx Jxx 9x, so Frances and her partner didn't bid a 30% 23-point 3NT.
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Posted 2011-June-01, 15:32

View Postgnasher, on 2011-May-31, 17:12, said:

At my table, I made a rather undisciplined 2♣ overcall, and went for 500.

I suppose giving you a good slap is out of the question?
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