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#1 User is offline   chasetb 

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Posted 2011-May-21, 12:11


Final hand of a home game. Partner is an up-and-coming Junior, and you and him seem to be on the same wavelength. The pre-empts by North are very sound, so expect 7 or even 8. What would you bid?

If it makes any difference, partner is playing "in luck", and a small slam would put him in 2nd behind you, not that it means anything to him.

If you pass:
Spoiler

If you bid 3♠, 4♦, or 4♥:
Spoiler

If you bid 4♠, 4NT, or 5♦:
Spoiler

For other bids:
Spoiler

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Posted 2011-May-21, 13:04

3S, but can't continue; I have UI that opener will make the same rebid whether I bid 3S, 4D, or 4H.
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Posted 2011-May-21, 13:24

3♠
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 wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.


 rbforster, on 2012-May-20, 21:04, said:

Besides playing for fun, most people also like to play bridge to win


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Posted 2011-May-21, 13:58

agree with hanoi5 :)
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Posted 2011-May-21, 15:46

View Postgwnn, on 2011-May-21, 13:58, said:

agree with hanoi5 :)

Another vote for this
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Posted 2011-May-21, 16:22

View PostCyberyeti, on 2011-May-21, 15:46, said:

Another vote for this


Aaaaaaaand +1

(I think anything but 3♠ is crazy btw, so long as it's forcing)
I once yelled at my partner for discarding the 'wrong' card when he was subjected to a squeeze that I allowed by giving the wrong count with too high a card. Now he's allowed to pitch aces when the opponents have the king in the dummy. At trick 2. When he could have followed suit. And blame me.

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Posted 2011-May-21, 20:42

3S. Over 5D I would bid 5NT.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2011-May-22, 14:04

Making a non-forcing bid below game (4♦) or below slam is not bridge. Raising diamonds is not bridge. The only suggested non-3S bid for which I have mild sympathy is 4NT if that's RKCB.

Over 3S (4H) 5D I agree with Han.
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Posted 2011-May-23, 01:09

Are the 5N bidders intending it as a grand slam try without first round control in hearts, or as choice of slams?
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Posted 2011-May-23, 03:11

completly misread.
From Psych "I mean, Gus and I never see eye-to-eye on work stuff.
For instance, he doesn't like being used as a human shield when we're being shot at.
I happen to think it's a very noble way to meet one's maker, especially for a guy like him.
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Posted 2011-May-23, 03:18

3S-- followed by 6C with S and clubs or S+D just looking for the best 6, I would bid 5Nt PAS so 6 clubs is looking for 7. With 2A i expect him to bid 7.
From Psych "I mean, Gus and I never see eye-to-eye on work stuff.
For instance, he doesn't like being used as a human shield when we're being shot at.
I happen to think it's a very noble way to meet one's maker, especially for a guy like him.
Bottom line is we never let that difference of opinion interfere with anything."
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Posted 2011-May-23, 04:43

View Postkayin801, on 2011-May-21, 16:22, said:

Aaaaaaaand +1

(I think anything but 3♠ is crazy btw, so long as it's forcing)


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Posted 2011-May-23, 06:50

View PostJLOGIC, on 2011-May-23, 01:09, said:

Are the 5N bidders intending it as a grand slam try without first round control in hearts, or as choice of slams?


I would intend it as choice of slams, because I'll bid 3♠ and have it coming back to me in 5♦.
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Posted 2011-May-23, 23:48

I intended it as choice of slams.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2011-May-24, 02:02

3♠ followed by 5NT would also be choice of slams for me. COS is much more frequent than GST imo, so I prefer to use it for that purpose whenever the fit isn't clear and we're at high level.
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Posted 2011-May-24, 06:58

3S is the only sensible bid and given my dear partner bid I will raise them a level.
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