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#1 User is offline   Hanoi5 

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Posted 2011-May-15, 14:05



Who could have done better?

 wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the 3.


 rbforster, on 2012-May-20, 21:04, said:

Besides playing for fun, most people also like to play bridge to win


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Posted 2011-May-15, 15:17

Can u tell me what is wrong in this contract?
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Posted 2011-May-15, 15:35

6 is a better contract.
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Posted 2011-May-15, 19:06

Who white?who red?pls dont forget tell us.5 was good contract,wasnt it?
I wd bid 3 after 2 even if PD bid DBL 1 which means NEG normally but PD can only hv suit with 10hcp-.
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Posted 2011-May-15, 19:43

With a trump lead 6 wont be a walk in a park.
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Posted 2011-May-15, 19:54

View Posttolvyrj, on 2011-May-15, 19:43, said:

With a trump lead 6 wont be a walk in a park.

Without a trump lead, 6 is cold. With a trump lead, it is no worse than on a simple heart finesse. (Setting up a diamond might be a better probability.)
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Posted 2011-May-15, 21:39

Setting up must be better probapility after they have lead trump. Now all u have to do is hope that u can set the and still be able to draw the trumps, cause u maybe short of them when (if) the r strong.
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Posted 2011-May-16, 01:44

After a club lead, suppose that you play diamond ruff, A, heart ruff, diamond ruff, heart ruff, diamond ruff. You're down to two trumps in East and none in West, the defenders still have two trumps, the diamonds aren't set up yet, and you're in the wrong hand.

I'd take the heart finesse and then crossruff.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2011-May-16, 06:47

View Posttolvyrj, on 2011-May-15, 21:39, said:

Setting up must be better probapility after they have lead trump. Now all u have to do is hope that u can set the and still be able to draw the trumps, cause u maybe short of them when (if) the r strong.


The probability of being able to set up s is almost zero.

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Posted 2011-May-16, 11:13

View Postmenggq, on 2011-May-15, 19:06, said:

Who white?who red?pls dont forget tell us.

He didn't forget. Everyone white:

Everyone red:

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Posted 2011-May-16, 15:21

On the auction given I think East should have bid 4NT (blackwood) over 4C. I don't really agree with the X - for me that would show a strong NT without a stop in spades, though no doubt this pair plays it differently - and would have bid 4C natural (since X doesn't really show a suit). East bids 4D, West 4H and East 4NT, not underestimating his 6-5 hand now he knows of a maximum opener + 4-card clubs opposite.

Having said that, West might have punted 6C over 5C in the OP's auction given his 3-loser hand, but I'm not going to blame him for passing.

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Posted 2011-May-16, 17:09

i like the x of 2s a far sighted bid knowing that p
would almost never pass it for penalty because they
are extremely likely to have at least ten cards in minors
(0/1 spade and less than 2 hearts). This keeps the bidding
LOW and gives W a chance to learn more about E hand.

3d is just too weak a 3d call would be closer to
x xx QJxxxx QJxx and unwillingness to play 2s x
with a minimum and dia preference. Your actual
hand is at least 2 tricks above minimum and deserves
more repsect in the bidding.

bid 4s bypassing 3s (and thus 3n) has to be because of
extreme distribution and weakish asking p to pick best minor.

Once 4s hits the table W should have zero problems bidding
6c and should not be thinking grand because E bypassed 3s
to show a weakish/distributional hand.
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Posted 2011-May-17, 06:25

What would 1H <1S> 2S Q-bid show?
I play that as 5-5 other suits as negX otherwise.
That gets slammy rolling.
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Posted 2011-May-17, 14:31

View Postdake50, on 2011-May-17, 06:25, said:

What would 1H <1S> 2S Q-bid show?
I play that as 5-5 other suits as negX otherwise.
That gets slammy rolling.


Really? How do you support with 11+? 13+?

 wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the 3.


 rbforster, on 2012-May-20, 21:04, said:

Besides playing for fun, most people also like to play bridge to win


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Posted 2011-May-18, 03:06

Prefer 2 + 3 with responder's hand, but that's a detail.

Contract is fine. From responder's point of view, there can be a lot of wastage so a quiet 5 seems par.
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Posted 2011-May-19, 07:30

Really? How do you support with 11+? 13+?

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