Another pre-empt How do you handle this?
#1
Posted 2011-May-15, 13:57
♠AKQ98
♥A3
♦KJ42
♣K5
3♦-3NT-Pa-5♣
Pa-???
Do you agree with 3NT? What hand do you picture your partner having? What's your call now?
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#2
Posted 2011-May-15, 15:47
#3
Posted 2011-May-15, 17:23
#4
Posted 2011-May-15, 17:41
Now I pass. Yes I have 20 points but beyond that my hand is not that great for a club slam and 5♣ is not encouraging.
#5
Posted 2011-May-15, 18:30
For this hand u hv three choices probably:3♠\DBL\3N.obviously PD almost doesnt hv ♦ stopper,if u bid 3♠ or DBL,PD wd bid something over 3N.
It's not easy to decide which bid wd be the best after 5♣. 6♣?7♣?6N?PASS?
#6
Posted 2011-May-16, 01:29
I can't see what double is supposed to achieve, or what you're going to bid on the next round. dbl-3♥-3NT shows a flexible hand, suggesting 3-card heart support and a single diamond stop. Dbl-3♥-3♠ will never get us to 3NT and may not get us to game. Dbl-4♣-4♠ also doesn't get us to 3NT.
When partner bids 5♣ opposite my 3NT, I pass. If he had ♣AQxxxx, he would pass 3NT. 5♣ is likely to be a long, topless suit without a side entry, that is a hand which he thinks will be useless in 3NT. eg x Jxxx x QJ10xxxx or x Jxx x QJ10xxxxx.
#7
Posted 2011-May-16, 12:17
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#8
Posted 2011-May-16, 12:37
gnasher, on 2011-May-16, 01:29, said:
Agree. I think that pass is clear.
#9
Posted 2011-May-16, 15:15
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#10
Posted 2011-May-17, 05:18
#11
Posted 2011-May-17, 06:34
With <3D> 3N <P> 5C.
Did partner have an option to differentiate his choice?
#12
Posted 2011-May-20, 06:52
x 3s 3n
after 5c have to PASS. p did not pull from 3n
lightly and I would not be surprised to see
a hand similar to xx xx x Qxxxxxxx.
xx xx x Axxxxxxx would be good enough
to bid 4c and try for slam.
#13
Posted 2011-May-20, 19:06
Hanoi5, on 2011-May-15, 13:57, said:
♠AKQ98
♥A3
♦KJ42
♣K5
3♦-3NT-Pa-5♣
Pa-???
Do you agree with 3NT? What hand do you picture your partner having? What's your call now?
- I agree with 3 NT
-Passing 5♣ or bidding on totally depends on the style of 5♣ bidder. When i first joined to forums i argued 2 similar hands for passing, because in my style 5♣ means "pd if u have everything i need maybe we can make it and in 3 NT my hand is trickless" However when i asked to some very good players, majority of them plays such 5 minor jumps contructive.
So if your pd is someone like me pass, if your pd is a believer of "no gambling 5 minor bids except than saving" then i think you could bid on with this.
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#14
Posted 2011-May-20, 19:16
ArtK78, on 2011-May-16, 12:37, said:
I second that and also agree with the original 3NT.
#15
Posted 2011-May-22, 17:54
#16
Posted 2011-May-23, 05:03
3Nt can be bid quite heavy so i have extras but nothing to get excited. Partner bid is really not foward going. Hes mostly saying taht from his side 5C look better tahn 3Nt thats all.
For instance, he doesn't like being used as a human shield when we're being shot at.
I happen to think it's a very noble way to meet one's maker, especially for a guy like him.
Bottom line is we never let that difference of opinion interfere with anything."