BBO Discussion Forums: Another pre-empt - BBO Discussion Forums

Jump to content

Page 1 of 1
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

Another pre-empt How do you handle this?

#1 User is offline   Hanoi5 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 4,082
  • Joined: 2006-August-31
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Santiago, Chile
  • Interests:Bridge, Video Games, Languages, Travelling.

Posted 2011-May-15, 13:57

All red, you receive:

AKQ98
A3
KJ42
K5

3-3NT-Pa-5
Pa-???

Do you agree with 3NT? What hand do you picture your partner having? What's your call now?

 wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the 3.


 rbforster, on 2012-May-20, 21:04, said:

Besides playing for fun, most people also like to play bridge to win


My YouTube Channel
1

#2 User is offline   tolvyrj 

  • PipPipPipPip
  • Group: Full Members
  • Posts: 175
  • Joined: 2003-October-20

Posted 2011-May-15, 15:47

No i dont agree with 3 Nt, hand is too strong and so is my shape. And look what happened, prd bid 5 . Now im guessing what is right; since 4 would have been forcing too IMO, 5 must promise at least six card suit and wheter or not prd hopes that i have K of slam must have some possibilities so i will bid it, 6 .
0

#3 User is offline   whereagles 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 14,900
  • Joined: 2004-May-11
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Portugal
  • Interests:Everything!

Posted 2011-May-15, 17:23

Even though a diamond ruff seems impossible, I think I'd stick to my gut feeling of 6NT.
0

#4 User is offline   helene_t 

  • The Abbess
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 17,197
  • Joined: 2004-April-22
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:UK

Posted 2011-May-15, 17:41

I am ok with 3NT. Would probably have doubled but w/e.

Now I pass. Yes I have 20 points but beyond that my hand is not that great for a club slam and 5 is not encouraging.
The world would be such a happy place, if only everyone played Acol :) --- TramTicket
0

#5 User is offline   menggq 

  • PipPipPip
  • Group: Full Members
  • Posts: 94
  • Joined: 2010-April-16
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Shanghai China

Posted 2011-May-15, 18:30

If u hv some choices to bid,3N is one of them bid 3N wd be the best.
For this hand u hv three choices probably:3\DBL\3N.obviously PD almost doesnt hv stopper,if u bid 3 or DBL,PD wd bid something over 3N.
It's not easy to decide which bid wd be the best after 5. 6?7?6N?PASS?
0

#6 User is offline   gnasher 

  • Andy Bowles
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 11,993
  • Joined: 2007-May-03
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:London, UK

Posted 2011-May-16, 01:29

I agree with 3NT.

I can't see what double is supposed to achieve, or what you're going to bid on the next round. dbl-3-3NT shows a flexible hand, suggesting 3-card heart support and a single diamond stop. Dbl-3-3 will never get us to 3NT and may not get us to game. Dbl-4-4 also doesn't get us to 3NT.

When partner bids 5 opposite my 3NT, I pass. If he had AQxxxx, he would pass 3NT. 5 is likely to be a long, topless suit without a side entry, that is a hand which he thinks will be useless in 3NT. eg x Jxxx x QJ10xxxx or x Jxx x QJ10xxxxx.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
0

#7 User is offline   pooltuna 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 3,814
  • Joined: 2009-July-23
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:New Orleans

Posted 2011-May-16, 12:17

6
"Tell me of your home world, Usul"
the Freman, Chani from the move "Dune"

"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it."

George Bernard Shaw
0

#8 User is offline   ArtK78 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 7,786
  • Joined: 2004-September-05
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Galloway NJ USA
  • Interests:Bridge, Poker, participatory and spectator sports.
    Occupation - Tax Attorney in Atlantic City, NJ.

Posted 2011-May-16, 12:37

View Postgnasher, on 2011-May-16, 01:29, said:

When partner bids 5 opposite my 3NT, I pass. If he had AQxxxx, he would pass 3NT. 5 is likely to be a long, topless suit without a side entry, that is a hand which he thinks will be useless in 3NT. eg x Jxxx x QJ10xxxx or x Jxx x QJ10xxxxx.


Agree. I think that pass is clear.
0

#9 User is offline   ahydra 

  • AQT92 AQ --- QJ6532
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 2,840
  • Joined: 2009-September-09
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Wellington, NZ

Posted 2011-May-16, 15:15

It's a bit heavy for 3NT but I'd like a 6th spade to double then bid spades. Perhaps you could double and bid NT, but you're probably still going to end up in 5C by the sound of it. I pass 5C - it's a weak bid, so if you bid 6 you may well be off two cashing aces (if the other diamonds are 1-1).

ahydra
0

#10 User is offline   Cyberyeti 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 14,196
  • Joined: 2009-July-13
  • Location:England

Posted 2011-May-17, 05:18

I think you have to pass 5. Yes 6 may well make if either partner or leader is void in diamonds, but QJ to lots clubs is his most likely holding. I have no problems with the 3N bid.
0

#11 User is offline   dake50 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 2,211
  • Joined: 2006-April-22

Posted 2011-May-17, 06:34

Contrast <3D> 3N <P> 4C. Then slamming.
With <3D> 3N <P> 5C.
Did partner have an option to differentiate his choice?
0

#12 User is offline   gszes 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 3,660
  • Joined: 2011-February-12

Posted 2011-May-20, 06:52

3N very reasonable call and probably best btn
x 3s 3n

after 5c have to PASS. p did not pull from 3n
lightly and I would not be surprised to see
a hand similar to xx xx x Qxxxxxxx.
xx xx x Axxxxxxx would be good enough
to bid 4c and try for slam.
0

#13 User is offline   MrAce 

  • VIP Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 6,971
  • Joined: 2009-November-14
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Houston, TX

Posted 2011-May-20, 19:06

View PostHanoi5, on 2011-May-15, 13:57, said:

All red, you receive:

AKQ98
A3
KJ42
K5

3-3NT-Pa-5
Pa-???

Do you agree with 3NT? What hand do you picture your partner having? What's your call now?



- I agree with 3 NT

-Passing 5 or bidding on totally depends on the style of 5 bidder. When i first joined to forums i argued 2 similar hands for passing, because in my style 5 means "pd if u have everything i need maybe we can make it and in 3 NT my hand is trickless" However when i asked to some very good players, majority of them plays such 5 minor jumps contructive.

So if your pd is someone like me pass, if your pd is a believer of "no gambling 5 minor bids except than saving" then i think you could bid on with this.
"Genius has its own limitations, however stupidity has no such boundaries!"
"It's only when a mosquito lands on your testicles that you realize there is always a way to solve problems without using violence!"

"Well to be perfectly honest, in my humble opinion, of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view, but also by looking into this matter in a different perspective and without being condemning of one's view's and by trying to make it objectified, and by considering each and every one's valid opinion, I honestly believe that I completely forgot what I was going to say."





0

#14 User is offline   the hog 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 10,728
  • Joined: 2003-March-07
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Laos
  • Interests:Wagner and Bridge

Posted 2011-May-20, 19:16

View PostArtK78, on 2011-May-16, 12:37, said:

Agree. I think that pass is clear.


I second that and also agree with the original 3NT.
"The King of Hearts a broadsword bears, the Queen of Hearts a rose." W. H. Auden.
0

#15 User is offline   cherdano 

  • 5555
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 9,519
  • Joined: 2003-September-04
  • Gender:Male

Posted 2011-May-22, 17:54

Even if partner had xx Kxxx x AQxxxx, you would need trumps to break 3=2 (with LHO having three).
The easiest way to count losers is to line up the people who talk about loser count, and count them. -Kieran Dyke
0

#16 User is offline   benlessard 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 3,465
  • Joined: 2006-January-07
  • Location:Montreal Canada
  • Interests:All games. i really mean all of them.

Posted 2011-May-23, 05:03

3Nt/pass

3Nt can be bid quite heavy so i have extras but nothing to get excited. Partner bid is really not foward going. Hes mostly saying taht from his side 5C look better tahn 3Nt thats all.
From Psych "I mean, Gus and I never see eye-to-eye on work stuff.
For instance, he doesn't like being used as a human shield when we're being shot at.
I happen to think it's a very noble way to meet one's maker, especially for a guy like him.
Bottom line is we never let that difference of opinion interfere with anything."
0

Page 1 of 1
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

1 User(s) are reading this topic
0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users