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#1 User is offline   rogerclee 

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Posted 2011-May-12, 00:42

xx Jx AJTxxx xxx
Axx AKxxx 9x AKx

RHO deals

1D* X 1H** P
1S*** 2H P 3D
P 3N AP

* = precision style, 11-13 if bal, 2+D
** = spades
*** = exactly 3 spades

LHO leads a spade, and RHO plays J, Q, then low. You win and play a heart to RHO's queen, RHO plays back the club 8. You hop and cash 4 rounds of hearts (they split 3-3), RHO pitching two clubs (not the QJT), LHO pitching spades, your play.
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Posted 2011-May-12, 01:09

If RHO is 3334, I should cash the other club and then endplay him with a diamond. If he's 3325, I should give up a diamond without first cashing the club. Either QJx Qxx KQx Qxxx or QJx Qxx KQ Qxxxx is consistent with the bidding.

Exactly what clubs did they each play, and what are their leads during the play?
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2011-May-12, 01:39

Sorry this was like the 115th board against Meckwell, I was pretty out of it by then, I think RHO played the club 8 then a low spot then the 9 but I can't be sure. I was never told they had any special leads during the middle of the hand, they lead 4th best against NT in general.
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Posted 2011-May-12, 13:24

I don't think he would have switched to a club from QJ here - that would just give the contract if I had Axx AKxxx x AK10x.

We haven't seen a club honour from LHO, so he doesn't have J10 doubleton. If he had J10x, he might have played an honour on the first club, and he might have preferred a club lead from xxxxx xxx xx J10x.

That seems to make the club suit Jx-Q1098x or Q10x-J98x. We probably can't infer much from the choice of card - these people are supposed to be good, so he is probably aware of the possibility of an endplay and should just randomise.

Is QJx Qxx KQx J98x an opening bid for Meckwell? I assume so. A priori, that's more likely than QJx Qxx KQ Q1098x. I'll play for clubs 3=4.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2011-May-12, 18:46

for precision sys i think RHO has 11-12hcp balance hand 3343 or 3334 most likely. why not 3325? since 3325 11-12hcp wd not be opened for good players.i wd play second round big to eliminate RHO and play finesse endplay RHO as well.
by the way i wd like to say 1 openning bid(pre sys) can be 2 when 4423 11-12hcp.(1N=13-15hcp)
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Posted 2011-May-15, 10:17

deleted the stuff of nightmares agree with gnasher play for clubs 3/4 since it is much more likely from an original deal standpoint
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Posted 2011-May-15, 10:28

East has pitched only two clubs, not three.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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