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Do you bid anything more with this hand?
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Posted 2011-May-04, 17:31
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Do you bid anything more with this hand?
Do you bid anything more with this hand?
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Posted 2011-May-04, 17:40
I bid 6N. I think there is an inference that partner has 5 spades, and is offering a choice of slams with a balanced raise, since he didn't Texas or look for a grand slam, which he might do with more distributional hands/more spades. I prefer the NT slam.
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Posted 2011-May-04, 19:21
Why would I overrule my partner? I'll just have a talk after the hand to let him know we'd better go slow (especially if there's something better available.
wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:
Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.
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Posted 2011-May-04, 19:25
Hanoi5, on 2011-May-04, 19:21, said:
Why would I overrule my partner? I'll just have a talk after the hand to let him know we'd better go slow (especially if there's something better available.
Your partner is a grand life master, he knows what he is doing, although you have no agreement about this sequence.
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Posted 2011-May-04, 20:50
I hope those who pull enjoy playing in 6NT with partner's diamond void staring them in the face! (I would expect partner to have a void in this sequence most of the time and they're just trying to avoid giving away information)
5NT would show Chris's choice of slams with my partner, but I can understand that people might automatically assume that's GSF.
5NT would show Chris's choice of slams with my partner, but I can understand that people might automatically assume that's GSF.
I once yelled at my partner for discarding the 'wrong' card when he was subjected to a squeeze that I allowed by giving the wrong count with too high a card. Now he's allowed to pitch aces when the opponents have the king in the dummy. At trick 2. When he could have followed suit. And blame me.
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Posted 2011-May-04, 21:24
rduran1216, on 2011-May-04, 19:25, said:
Your partner is a grand life master, he knows what he is doing, although you have no agreement about this sequence.
easy pass
I aint overruling a grand life master who knows what he is doing......
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Posted 2011-May-04, 23:38
Agree mike777.
Let me hear more of this grand life master who knows what he is doing.
Let me hear more of this grand life master who knows what he is doing.
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Posted 2011-May-05, 01:51
Partner thinks the right contract is 6♠ by me. Why should I disagree?
That's what 1NT-2♥;2♠-5NT shows.
Don't you think it would be better to look at his hand first?
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I think there is an inference that partner has 5 spades, and is offering a choice of slams with a balanced raise
That's what 1NT-2♥;2♠-5NT shows.
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I'll just have a talk after the hand to let him know we'd better go slow
Don't you think it would be better to look at his hand first?
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2011-May-05, 02:31
With people I've discussed it with, we do play this sequence as choice of 6♠ or 6N (and 5N as a grand try) but I would never pull this undiscussed.
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Posted 2011-May-05, 02:49
gnasher, on 2011-May-05, 01:51, said:
Don't you think it would be better to look at his hand first?
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Posted 2011-May-05, 04:10
This is one of the most obvious passes I have ever seen posted here. Bidding 6NT deserves to find a D void in partner's hand. (Sorry, that has already been said.)
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Posted 2011-May-05, 04:10
rduran1216, on 2011-May-04, 19:25, said:
Your partner is a grand life master, he knows what he is doing, although you have no agreement about this sequence.
This auction is to play. You claim he knows what he's doing, so he just wants you to play 6♠. Who are you to overrule his decision? Do what you're asked by your GLM and pass.
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Posted 2011-May-05, 06:18
there is a clear, albeit unspoken, agreement about this sequence:
- 6♠ asks for a pass
- 6NT or any 7-level bid by opener asks for a punch in a face
... and I can prove it with my usual, flawless logic.
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Posted 2011-May-05, 06:53
gwnn is a hero.
It just occurred to me that maybe with prime controls we should be "considering" a raise (and then I also read gwnn's post). I guess partner could have AKQxxxx, x, Axx, xx and we could be nearly cold for 7NT, but unless this bid is by agreement "7 solid spades and an outside A" then raising it (the other alternative) is very very bad.
It just occurred to me that maybe with prime controls we should be "considering" a raise (and then I also read gwnn's post). I guess partner could have AKQxxxx, x, Axx, xx and we could be nearly cold for 7NT, but unless this bid is by agreement "7 solid spades and an outside A" then raising it (the other alternative) is very very bad.
I once yelled at my partner for discarding the 'wrong' card when he was subjected to a squeeze that I allowed by giving the wrong count with too high a card. Now he's allowed to pitch aces when the opponents have the king in the dummy. At trick 2. When he could have followed suit. And blame me.
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Posted 2011-May-05, 07:04
I have one basic principal when it comes to massive jumps to slam.
They end the auction.
Maybe there is a better spot, maybe not, but partner had plenty of room to explore for it and he chose not to do so.
Clear cut pass.
They end the auction.
Maybe there is a better spot, maybe not, but partner had plenty of room to explore for it and he chose not to do so.
Clear cut pass.
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Posted 2011-May-05, 09:40
Who bids like this?
Let me guess, you were playing with Lowell.
Let me guess, you were playing with Lowell.
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Posted 2011-May-05, 10:18
If we think its a strong likelihood that partner has a diamond void, then what else does he have for 6S?
Is AKQxxxx QJx - xxx possible?
I think if partner has a hand comfortable for the 6 level with a diamond void, shouldn't i be raising to seven with my perfect cards outside? Partner probably has a hand he doesn't know how to find 7 with since we're playing no exclusion, no fancy tools. If he's got enough power to guarentee 6, I think A AK in the unknown suits is huge. After all, partner can have 8 spades and a K outside, in which case we may have play at 7 anyhow.
Is AKQxxxx QJx - xxx possible?
I think if partner has a hand comfortable for the 6 level with a diamond void, shouldn't i be raising to seven with my perfect cards outside? Partner probably has a hand he doesn't know how to find 7 with since we're playing no exclusion, no fancy tools. If he's got enough power to guarentee 6, I think A AK in the unknown suits is huge. After all, partner can have 8 spades and a K outside, in which case we may have play at 7 anyhow.
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Posted 2011-May-05, 11:04
Look rduran, your partner simply didn't ask for your kind cooperation on this hand. Perhaps that is a traumatic experience, but it is one that you will have to overcome if you want to continue to play bridge.
... and I can prove it with my usual, flawless logic.
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Posted 2011-May-05, 11:36
gwnn, on 2011-May-05, 11:04, said:
Look rduran, your partner simply didn't ask for your kind cooperation on this hand. Perhaps that is a traumatic experience, but it is one that you will have to overcome if you want to continue to play bridge.
At least he transferred!
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Posted 2011-May-05, 11:44
gnasher, on 2011-May-05, 01:51, said:
That's what 1NT-2♥;2♠-5NT shows.
I play that as a quantitative invitation to 7 with a 5-(332) hand, but I understand that the majority of others might have different agreements. I still maintain that if partner wanted to set spades as trump unambiguously, he would (should?) texas transfer.
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