[cherdano]

Free, on 2011-May-10, 07:35, said:

Apparently you don't agree with my statement, but it's a well known fact that opposite a splinter you better have no values rather than an Ace. Let me prove it to you with an example:
Say your partner has AQJT8-3-AKQ-K52. If you have K962-A72-853-Q94 (the example hand), slam has absolutely no play unless you find ♣JT - good luck with that. If you have K962-742-853-AQ9 on the other hand, slam is cold. All I did was switching ♥A with a ♣.


The only reason not to call you any names is that we already showed a ♥ stopper, so on this hand it's the best holding, except perhaps JTxx.

Uh, the reason Andy said it's best possible holding is of course exactly that we already promised a heart stopper. A post of "Sorry, I missed that we promised a stopper already" would be more adequate than lecturing Andy about the merits of xxx vs Axx opposite a stopper.

[JLOGIC]

gnasher, on 2011-May-10, 07:06, said:

Do you also think we have 9 points more than a minimum, and four more spades than we might have had?

Funniest thing I've read on the forums in a long time, well done.

[jh51]

Free, on 2011-May-10, 07:35, said:

Apparently you don't agree with my statement, but it's a well known fact that opposite a splinter you better have no values rather than an Ace. Let me prove it to you with an example:
Say your partner has AQJT8-3-AKQ-K52. If you have K962-A72-853-Q94 (the example hand), slam has absolutely no play unless you find ♣JT - good luck with that. If you have K962-742-853-AQ9 on the other hand, slam is cold. All I did was switching ♥A with a ♣.

But would you rather have K962-742-853-AQ9 or K962-A42-853-AQ9? In the latter case you have a grand slam and the former a small slam.

If you are saying that it is better to have the Ace in a suit where one of you also has the King than in the splinter suit, that is true. But what I have read is the two holdings you want in the splinter suit are the Ace or no honor card. A King is of questionable value and a Q of no value in assessing slam possibilities. In your hand where the slam is cold, try exchaning the ♣Q with a ♥. Now there is no chance of a slam, where there was at least a small chance when the Ace was opposite a singleton.

Recenly my partner and I bid and made a slam on 24 HCP when we each had Ace and small cards opposite a singelton in partner's hand. I opened, partner splintered, I cue bid my singleton and she bid the slam.

[Free]

jh51, on 2011-May-11, 12:56, said:

But would you rather have K962-742-853-AQ9 or K962-A42-853-AQ9? In the latter case you have a grand slam and the former a small slam.

The second hand has an extra Ace, ofcourse I want that hand... You're comparing apples and oranges.