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White against red, IMPs.
1H - (2D) - Dbl -(pass)
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KJxx
AQ10xx
xxx
A
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Posted 2011-April-14, 04:06
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
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Posted 2011-April-14, 04:31
Voted 2♠.
Close, depends somewhat on, how much in a habit partner and I am, biddng 2♠ on a three-card-suit.
I play that 2♠ virtually guarantees 4. Combined with that xxx in Diamonds is bad, we are white, and that the♣A may not pull it's full weight, I choose the conservative option.
Stating the obvious (well, obvious to an overbidder like me): ♠KJxx/♥AQ10xx/♦x/♣Axx is a clear 3♠.
Close, depends somewhat on, how much in a habit partner and I am, biddng 2♠ on a three-card-suit.
I play that 2♠ virtually guarantees 4. Combined with that xxx in Diamonds is bad, we are white, and that the♣A may not pull it's full weight, I choose the conservative option.
Stating the obvious (well, obvious to an overbidder like me): ♠KJxx/♥AQ10xx/♦x/♣Axx is a clear 3♠.
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Posted 2011-April-14, 04:59
2♠ Pd knows we are 5-4 due to 1♥ opening and stiff ♣A, yuk !
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Posted 2011-April-14, 08:56
'Kiss of death' D:xxx. I go tame 2S.
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Posted 2011-April-14, 08:57
I may be somewhat tainted by my frequency of opening light, but here's my thought.
First, I am about a King above minimum. Throw out the spade King, and I have an opening bid.
Second, when the takeout double is of a 2♦ overcall of a major, Opener has less space to unwind and will frequently bid a 3-card major. What else with the exact same honors (perhaps with the heart Queen instead a small heart) and 3-5-1-4 shape?
Third, I wouldn't double as frequently with Responder's hand as many. With just four spades, I can wait for a reopening double.
So, my tendency, perhaps, of lighter initial actions and more conservative use of a negative double in this sequence compels me to bid 3♠. That may well be a downside to the approach. Pros and cons.
First, I am about a King above minimum. Throw out the spade King, and I have an opening bid.
Second, when the takeout double is of a 2♦ overcall of a major, Opener has less space to unwind and will frequently bid a 3-card major. What else with the exact same honors (perhaps with the heart Queen instead a small heart) and 3-5-1-4 shape?
Third, I wouldn't double as frequently with Responder's hand as many. With just four spades, I can wait for a reopening double.
So, my tendency, perhaps, of lighter initial actions and more conservative use of a negative double in this sequence compels me to bid 3♠. That may well be a downside to the approach. Pros and cons.
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Posted 2011-April-14, 09:10
kenrexford, on 2011-April-14, 08:57, said:
I may be somewhat tainted by my frequency of opening light, but here's my thought.
First, I am about a King above minimum. Throw out the spade King, and I have an opening bid.
Second, when the takeout double is of a 2♦ overcall of a major, Opener has less space to unwind and will frequently bid a 3-card major. What else with the exact same honors (perhaps with the heart Queen instead a small heart) and 3-5-1-4 shape?
Third, I wouldn't double as frequently with Responder's hand as many. With just four spades, I can wait for a reopening double.
So, my tendency, perhaps, of lighter initial actions and more conservative use of a negative double in this sequence compels me to bid 3♠. That may well be a downside to the approach. Pros and cons.
First, I am about a King above minimum. Throw out the spade King, and I have an opening bid.
Second, when the takeout double is of a 2♦ overcall of a major, Opener has less space to unwind and will frequently bid a 3-card major. What else with the exact same honors (perhaps with the heart Queen instead a small heart) and 3-5-1-4 shape?
Third, I wouldn't double as frequently with Responder's hand as many. With just four spades, I can wait for a reopening double.
So, my tendency, perhaps, of lighter initial actions and more conservative use of a negative double in this sequence compels me to bid 3♠. That may well be a downside to the approach. Pros and cons.
You must be 100% wrong because I am in complete agreement with you especially regarding how bad a 2♠ call could be when we actually want to encourage partner.
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Posted 2011-April-14, 09:23
I must be wrong too, because I agree 100% with Ken....
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Posted 2011-April-14, 14:23
The poll results baffled me, but after seeing the answers I felt better: 3♠.
wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:
Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.
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Posted 2011-April-15, 04:28
I bid 3S and partner raised to 4S on Axxx xx xxx KQxx, of course a terrible fit. With spades splitting 4-1 and the hearts finesse offside I ended up -3. -150 was not a big deal at IMPs, but I wondered if I made a reasonable bid. Had they bid 2C then I think that 3S would be completely automatic, now after 2D (which was not raised) the hand looks worse.
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Posted 2011-April-15, 05:57
At IMP's, -3 is fabulous. Everything is going set. -1 sucks.
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Posted 2011-April-15, 09:46
han, on 2011-April-15, 04:28, said:
I bid 3S and partner raised to 4S on Axxx xx xxx KQxx, of course a terrible fit. With spades splitting 4-1 and the hearts finesse offside I ended up -3. -150 was not a big deal at IMPs, but I wondered if I made a reasonable bid. Had they bid 2C then I think that 3S would be completely automatic, now after 2D (which was not raised) the hand looks worse.
I think your 3♠ is clearer than 4♠.
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Posted 2011-April-15, 13:39
han, on 2011-April-14, 04:06, said:
White against red, IMPs KJxx AQ10xx xxx A
.1H - (2D) - Dbl -(pass)
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han, on 2011-April-15, 04:28, said:
I bid 3S and partner raised to 4S on Axxx xx xxx KQxx, of course a terrible fit. With spades splitting 4-1 and the hearts finesse offside I ended up -3. -150 was not a big deal at IMPs, but I wondered if I made a reasonable bid. Had they bid 2C then I think that 3S would be completely automatic, now after 2D (which was not raised) the hand looks worse.
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