Delayed double after 2-way Checkback
#1
Posted 2011-April-13, 05:58
1NT pass 2♣ pass
2♦ dbl
2♣ forces 2♦, and is either a signoff in diamonds or an invitational hand with 5+ spades.
What should double mean?
#2
Posted 2011-April-13, 06:17
#4
Posted 2011-April-13, 07:48
Playing it two-way sounds reasonable. A little risky though, to try without prior discussion, I'd think.
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#5
Posted 2011-April-13, 14:02
I cannot imagine making a lead directing double here. I can't have a good enough 5-card suit because I would overcall. Doubling on a good 4-card suit is quite risky because the opponents might well be planning to play 2D.
- hrothgar
#6
Posted 2011-April-13, 14:48
Anyway, what does playing this as take out for ♦ serve for ?? Seriously..
Responder bid 2♣ forcing a 2♦ and will tell his intention...He has a hand he wants to sign off in 2♦ which makes a take out double for ♦ reasonable, however for the rest you are sticking your finger into 220 V socket, with one of your suits opened by RHO , other suit is bid by LHO and they have at least 23-24 hcp if not more and you are not even sure if they have a fit yet ! At the top of the fact that you did not even discuss this with pd.
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#7
Posted 2011-April-14, 02:09
1C - 1H
1S - 2C
2D - ?
1C = may be a doubleton
1H = 4+ spades
1S = either any weak NT without 4 spades, or an unbalanced hand with 3 spades
2C = either a sign-off in diamonds, or invitational with exactly 5 spades, or some game forces with 5 spades
2D = any weak NT
Now partner is likely to be on lead against 3NT. Is it still take-out of diamonds?
#8
Posted 2011-April-14, 03:59
- hrothgar
#9
Posted 2011-April-14, 04:50
FrancesHinden, on 2011-April-14, 02:09, said:
It is odd that u say this, because;
-Nobody said it was a lead director dbl against 3 NT.
-If thats not what u meant, lead directing doubles are not restricted to NT contracts.
-If thats not what u meant either, this auction does not always end up in 3 NT.
"It's only when a mosquito lands on your testicles that you realize there is always a way to solve problems without using violence!"
"Well to be perfectly honest, in my humble opinion, of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view, but also by looking into this matter in a different perspective and without being condemning of one's view's and by trying to make it objectified, and by considering each and every one's valid opinion, I honestly believe that I completely forgot what I was going to say."
#10
Posted 2011-April-14, 05:03
gnasher, on 2011-April-13, 05:58, said:
1NT pass 2♣ pass
2♦ dbl
2♣ forces 2♦, and is either a signoff in diamonds or an invitational hand with 5+ spades.
What should double mean?
You've had a couple of opportunities to show diamonds, but this is your first chance to show a takeout of diamonds.
London UK
#11
Posted 2011-April-14, 05:10
#12
Posted 2011-April-14, 09:02
#13
Posted 2011-May-11, 02:41
1NT pass 2♣ pass
2♦ dbl
2♣ forces 2♦, and is either a signoff in diamonds or an invitational hand with 5+ spades.
What should double mean?
but also ♠4+ balance inv hand etc...
here 2♦ DBL=good♦ but i wonder if hv good ♦ why not bid 1♦ or 2♦weak jump after 1♣? so it might mean others:T/O for ♠?show ♥/♦?if 2♦will be sigh off DBL=T/O for ♦?
anyway this is a good question that's not easy to answer and need pd discuss deeply.