[blackshoe]

Not the way it works, Ken. The TD has to ask questions, and to determine whether the player "changed his mind" or not. If the player did intend to make the call he actually made, even if only for a second, then Law 25A on unintended calls does not apply. But if the call was truly unintended, then how long it lay on the table before the player realized it wasn't the call he intended is irrelevant, so long as his partner has not yet called.

In the case at hand, the player did not claim his pass was unintended, he said it "came out separately". Separately from what? Not the 3NT card, surely. On the evidence presented (which I grant is one sided and self-serving, but we don't have the player available to answer questions) this was not an unintended call, but it's not because it lay on the table for a time.

One possible scenario here is that the player was thinking whether to Stayman, or just bid 3NT, had a momentary lapse, and passed. At that moment, he thought, however briefly, that pass was the right call. So he can't change it under 25A, and can change it under 25B only if his LHO accepts the change — which I gather had about the same chance as the proverbial snowball in Hell.

[rduran1216]

Does the guy have a 3NT call?

In a vacuum do u assume he is operating leaving his partner in 1NT, or that he pulled the wrong card?

This is not hard.

[Ailleacht]

Hello Again People,
I live in Ireland and it was the Irish intermediate national teams. South was playing weak no trump. The person took his time thinking about what to bid. He took his time thinking and then took out the pass. I was thinking Ok you are not going to bid, fine and I tapped my pass on the table. the TD seemed to accept that the pass was not put there by the player but somehow appeared there and did not accept what i said that he put the card down and that i subsequently passed after this. I do not have the sheet of the hands played. i took the wrong sheets home with me. But he did have at least 11 points and 4 hearts.

Yet again I just do not think the bid was fair!

....PB

[Free]

rduran1216, on 2011-April-10, 18:40, said:

Does the guy have a 3NT call?

In a vacuum do u assume he is operating leaving his partner in 1NT, or that he pulled the wrong card?

This is not hard.

We don't live in a vacuum so this argument is worthless.