[mycroft]

Heh, cute, WellSpyder. I like.

suprgrover, now I have two reasons to like you (the other being that that's my work "superuser" ID - well, with the other e). What would be involved in building mats for the 7.5 table, "both-direction rover" (sit NS for first two boards, EW for the second two, of each 4 board round) movement, with, of course, the last-round arrow switch that otherwise freaks out the Vampyr (and I've added to the movement on my computer)? I know it's not for your page, as it's a 28-board movement.

The other one I'd want is Table 8 of the 8-table, 9x3 Hesitation Mitchell (again, of course, with the arrow-switch). Again, not for your page (it's a 27-boarder, obviously). I've got a handwritten one, but, well, I'm in IT because nobody could read my writing.

Vampyr: I had just typed it out, not made it a link; that was auto-made by the forum software. Unfortunately, it's not bright enough to understand that the semicolon isn't part of the address; I've edited the original post and put a space in there, which seems to resolve the issue. Thanks for pointing it out.

[Vampyr]

blackshoe, on 2011-March-09, 17:08, said:

Try this one.

Still no good.

[barmar]

The links all work fine for me.

[blackshoe]

Vampyr, on 2011-March-09, 17:12, said:

Still no good.

Well, try going to web.mit.edu where, at the top, will be a search box. Make sure the "mit google" button is selected (that seems to be the default) and put "double weave mitchell" in the box. Click search. That's how I got the link I put up, anyway.

[bluejak]

WellSpyder, on 2011-March-09, 11:24, said:

Actually, I think there is possibly an even clearer way to describe how the boards move. Whenever we use this movement (which our chief TD does whenever we have 12 tables) EW are made responsible for the movement of the boards rather than the usual NS. So EW move up or down according to whether they have an odd or even number, and they move the boards in the opposite direction (and it's obvious to them that they can't move the boards in the same direction that they are going!).

Exactly the same as others as saying, of course, just a slightly different way of looking at it....

Of course it is the same, but you are making life unnecessarily complicated for the E/W players. Much better to leave the boards to N/S.

[Vampyr]

blackshoe, on 2011-March-09, 18:09, said:

Well, try going to web.mit.edu where, at the top, will be a search box. Make sure the "mit google" button is selected (that seems to be the default) and put "double weave mitchell" in the box. Click search. That's how I got the link I put up, anyway.

OK. The file that is apparently the table cards is not one my computer recognises. I would really like to get these!

[blackshoe]

It's a postscript file, so you need something that can read such. I don't know what that might be under windows.

[Cascade]

There are also pdf files on the webpage which are more easily read.

[aguahombre]

Is ACBL Score able to cope? If so, I will bring this movement to our directors' attention.

[shintaro]

Vampyr, on 2011-March-09, 13:58, said:

Also it is a good idea to make sure each table checks the pair and board numbers on the Bridgemates before starting to play.

That'll be the day

[shintaro]

Oh come you lot

Use WORD set up a table 15 rows by 4 Columns

Row one for DETAILS eg 12 Table Double Weave 24 Boards
Next 6 for Round Number N/S E/W Boards
next for Half way movement instructions for Pairs and Boards
Next 6 for Round Number N/S E/W Boards
1 card for each table of course numbered 1 to 12

If you cant manage that Give our Jim a bell he will write the movement out in longhand for you

[shintaro]

Cascade, on 2011-March-08, 20:30, said:

Not sure where you need to share.

Wayne normally between Lowest and Highest numbered tables

[Cascade]

shintaro, on 2011-March-10, 12:12, said:

Wayne normally between Lowest and Highest numbered tables

The description of double weave Mitchell in Hallen, Hanner and Jannersten (English version Rigal) says explicitly "It has the advantage of the Relay Mitchell that there is neither board sharing nor idle boards."

Certainly my understanding of the double weave Mitchell is that there is precisely one unshared board set at every table on every round.

[Cascade]

Maybe there is a Scissors movement that requires board sharing.

[gordontd]

Cascade, on 2011-March-10, 13:37, said:

Certainly my understanding of the double weave Mitchell is that there is precisely one unshared board set at every table on every round.

Indeed so, but you asked your question of my post which talked about Share-and-Relay Mitchells.

[blackshoe]

aguahombre, on 2011-March-10, 10:43, said:

Is ACBL Score able to cope? If so, I will bring this movement to our directors' attention.

Yes. I don't think the double weaves are in the program by default (at least, not all of them), but they can be manually entered with EDMOV. An easier way might be to use some software available from the MIT site — I think there was something there that could produce ACBLScore movement files.

[barmar]

The MIT web site has some downloadable .MOV files, including the one for this movement.

[Cascade]

gordontd, on 2011-March-10, 14:48, said:

Indeed so, but you asked your question of my post which talked about Share-and-Relay Mitchells.

Oh i misread sorry.

[shevek]

bluejak, on 2011-March-09, 08:55, said:

Furthermore, it is one of the simplest movements in the book, the only problem is getting the players to believe you. Once they do, it is easily within their capabilities. There is no problem for a playing TD.

• Odd E/W: move up one table every round.
  
• Even E/W: move down one table every round.
  
• N/S: at end of each round move the boards the opposite way to the players.

It is far easier for the players than a Howell, Rover, Hesitation or Blackpool.

Surely the "pairs up, boards back" of Blackpool is easiest for everyone, remembering we are curtailing to 12 out of 14 possible Blackpool rounds. Admittedly not the best contest.

[bluejak]

shevek, on 2011-March-10, 23:15, said:

Surely the "pairs up, boards back" of Blackpool is easiest for everyone, remembering we are curtailing to 12 out of 14 possible Blackpool rounds. Admittedly not the best contest.

We do not run events where you curtail by two rounds. And if we did, there are relays, notorious causes of trouble. It is more likely that Blackpool will be got wrong by the players than a Double Weave.