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#1 User is offline   Hanoi5 

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Posted 2011-March-04, 14:24



MP's. The result was an average, but is there a way to get to 6?

 wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.


 rbforster, on 2012-May-20, 21:04, said:

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Posted 2011-March-04, 14:52

View PostHanoi5, on 2011-March-04, 14:24, said:



MP's. The result was an average, but is there a way to get to 6?

Yes get west to evaluate the ♣KJ as useful cards instead of thinking of them as spots when he bids 3♥
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Posted 2011-March-04, 15:00

View Postpooltuna, on 2011-March-04, 14:52, said:

Yes get west to evaluate the ♣KJ as useful cards instead of thinking of them as spots when he bids 3♥

So, the auction would go...
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Posted 2011-March-04, 16:34

Anyone want to play a forcing 3♥ over 2♣? I do.

By the way, 3♥ strikes me as excessively timid. While 3♥ might not make, it rates to be a favorite most of the time.
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Posted 2011-March-04, 23:24

View PostHanoi5, on 2011-March-04, 14:24, said:


MP's. The result was an average, but is there a way to get to 6?


I am surprised you reached to game after 3♥ bid here, letalone slam.
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Posted 2011-March-11, 16:45

... 2C
3H(set up trumps in H, 7+, solid) 3S(cue)
3N(odd number of aces) 4D(cue, denies C control)
4H(just one ace, so can't bid more than 4H) 4S(SK and we don't miss two aces)
5C(Cue in C) 5H(enough)
6H(CJ can be very important and we have no losers in S + D)
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Posted 2011-March-12, 11:53

3H is non-forcing. West has an obvious game force.
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Posted 2011-March-15, 22:01

View Postxxhong, on 2011-March-11, 16:45, said:

... 2C
3H(set up trumps in H, 7+, solid) 3S(cue)
3N(odd number of aces) 4D(cue, denies C control)
4H(just one ace, so can't bid more than 4H) 4S(SK and we don't miss two aces)
5C(Cue in C) 5H(enough)
6H(CJ can be very important and we have no losers in S + D)

Ok u can play 3♥here as it sets the trump, but why? U prd has introduced natural 5+ cards ♣suit to which u have KJx support.
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Posted 2011-March-16, 03:25

Instead of bidding 4♥ West could've showed fit with 4♣. wtp
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Posted 2011-March-16, 06:44

West should evaluate his hand as pretty good (A♦, AQ♣ across is enough). That being said, I really don't know how to bid it without some guesswork.
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Posted 2011-March-16, 09:28

View Posttolvyrj, on 2011-March-15, 22:01, said:

Ok u can play 3♥here as it sets the trump, but why? U prd has introduced natural 5+ cards ♣suit to which u have KJx support.


The common issue in mp, when u have a minor support and self sufficient major trump, it is very hard to show both of them unless u have an agreement as Phil suggested. If u dont show support u may miss slam, if u do show and u dont have slam u are playing 5 minor instead of 4 major, not big deal in imps but in mp it may hurt.
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Posted 2011-March-18, 10:58

after N opens 1d and no more opp bidding

2c
3h max 1 slow loser suit essentially setting trumps
3s cue bid
4c cue bid (I personally like 3n here to be low level rkc but couldnt use it
here anyway due to lack of dia control)
4d cue bid
4n rkc for CLUBS since it is impossible for heart hand to be missing any of
top 3 honors.
5h 5s two with club Q
6c offering a choice most likely becasue the heart bidder has the one slow possible loser heart suit. If missing club A there is a real danger of a
club ruff in a heart contract.
6h it might be safer to play in clubs but w/o at least QJ it is difficult to
decide to play in clubs when 6h might be ice cold. with a void in hearts
would pass and take chances.
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