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How disciplined must a 3NT overcall be?

Poll: How disciplined must a 3NT overcall be? (11 member(s) have cast votes)

What's you call?

  1. double (1 votes [9.09%])

    Percentage of vote: 9.09%

  2. 2di (1 votes [9.09%])

    Percentage of vote: 9.09%

  3. 3NT (9 votes [81.82%])

    Percentage of vote: 81.82%

  4. 5di (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  5. other (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#1 User is offline   helene_t 

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Posted 2011-January-29, 03:25

Matchpoints, intermediate/advanced field, not sure about these particular opps. You play Ghestem, week jump overcalls, and 3♠ would ask partner to bid 3NT with as little as JTxx in spades and out.

All red. RHO deals and opens 1♠.

Ax-xx-AKJxxxxx-A

If this is not a 3NT overcall, why not?
Would you bid differently if p was a passed hand?
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Posted 2011-January-29, 03:48

3NT asks little of partner. A single heart stopper and ♦Q makes it a certainty--and the ♦Q may drop even if pard is void. Plus this auction doesn't exactly scream for a heart lead. This is even more obvious if partner is a passed hand: in this case there is no chance of missing a slam. Even wih an unpassed partner, the chance of stealing 3nT when it could be set is greater than the unlikely slam chances.
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Posted 2011-January-29, 04:30

I would simply bid 3NT at MP. Who knows. At IMPS it may be worthwile to investigate 6D, but here if you reach 5D and 4NT makes, that's a bad board.
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Posted 2011-January-29, 11:14

3N. Even if it's possible to beat it, they haven't done so yet, and looking for anything else at MPs is silly IMO
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Posted 2011-January-29, 13:20

classic example of a 3♥, generalised western cuebid.
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Posted 2011-January-29, 13:25

 gwnn, on 2011-January-29, 13:20, said:

classic example of a 3♥, generalised western cuebid.

lol?
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Posted 2011-January-30, 01:05

 gwnn, on 2011-January-29, 13:20, said:

classic example of a 3♥, generalised western cuebid.


Eh? 3H is weak, strong, or intermediate here, but it does show Hearts for most of the world.
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Posted 2011-January-30, 06:16

 mtvesuvius, on 2011-January-29, 13:25, said:

lol?

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Posted 2011-January-30, 07:29

 helene_t, on 2011-January-29, 03:25, said:

Matchpoints, intermediate/advanced field, not sure about these particular opps. You play Ghestem, week jump overcalls, and 3♠ would ask partner to bid 3NT with as little as JTxx in spades and out.

All red. RHO deals and opens 1♠.

Ax-xx-AKJxxxxx-A

If this is not a 3NT overcall, why not?
Would you bid differently if p was a passed hand?



much too strong for a 3NT... maybe you have 6♦ or 7♦ to play...
Am afraid that 2♦ will get passed out. So, my bid is Double, intending to rebid 3NT or ♦ depending on P's answer.
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