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#1 User is offline   the_dude 

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Posted 2011-January-27, 10:50



All Vul at IMPS. Opponents seem to be sensible.

At what point are you mentioning your Spade suit? Now? At the 3 level? Maybe never?

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If you say Double or 2S right now, LHO will bid 3H passed back to you. What are your thoughts now?
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Posted 2011-January-27, 11:31

I'd double again, a little nervously with the void but any suit that partner bids is very acceptable. If partner bids a minor then I'll mention my spades before supporting.
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Posted 2011-January-27, 12:13

Not good enough for double then cue bid?
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Posted 2011-January-27, 12:25

Double and then 3♠ I think. I might hit a yarb across but I have support for everything!
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Posted 2011-January-27, 12:21

I would bid 2♠ now, I don't think this is enough to double and then bid 3♠ over 3m.

If 3♥ comes back, I would double.
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Posted 2011-January-27, 12:22

 blackshoe, on 2011-January-27, 12:13, said:

Not good enough for double then cue bid?


To me it is. I bid 3♥
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Posted 2011-January-27, 15:20

I'd double 3 times, but I have had problems with this approach, if the majority thinks 3♠ is best then they are probably right
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Posted 2011-January-27, 18:00

Agree with Phil. I would certainly double again.
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Posted 2011-January-28, 02:10

 the_dude, on 2011-January-27, 10:50, said:



All Vul at IMPS. Opponents seem to be sensible.

At what point are you mentioning your Spade suit? Now? At the 3 level? Maybe never?

Spoiler question:
If you say Double or 2S right now, LHO will bid 3H passed back to you. What are your thoughts now?



It might be possible that Partner has a penalty pass over 2♥. It depends if you have an agreement with partner for this situation. It could be the case if you play Responsive doubles.
But it is unlikely that he has AND ♥ AND enough values to pass your double (you simply have too much). So 2♠, which perfectly describes the hand: 17+HP, and very good 5 card.
With some ♠ support, parner might decide to give you furher support: 3 spades and ♣J might be enough for game !
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Posted 2011-January-28, 02:43

Agree with karlson
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Posted 2011-January-28, 04:05

Dbl again: excelent shape and extra's, that's what I have. :unsure:
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Posted 2011-January-28, 15:08

Tricky, on one hand i would like to dbl again, but prd might leave it in and then do i have enough defence and prd good enough trumps. On second hand 2♠ now do describes the hand, im bidding all by my self so i cant be very weak.
My vote will be 2♠, ♥lead attacks directly to long trumps and i must also develop ticks from my long side suits B) and if im lacking entries to dummy that may be difficult.
If and when they bid 3♥i dbl again hoping that my prd would then understand the nature of my hand. Fat chance. :D
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Posted 2011-January-31, 04:24

Keep doubling baby. All I need across is xx xxx xxxx Jxxx to have a shot at game.
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Posted 2011-January-31, 12:03

I would just bid 2S. If partner has a five card minor I will regret this as I have almost game in hand opposite that, but it seems unlikely given that the opps have only bid 2H. If partner does not have a 5 card minor my chances for game or even partscore become much diminished and I'd like to play in the safety of spades (and at the 2 level). Also, if partner has 4 trumps and anything he will probably raise so I don't expect to miss spade games this way (but if I double and parner bids 2S it will often be a 3 card suit and bidding 3S may get us too high).

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Posted 2011-January-31, 12:32

I'd have started with a 1♠ overcall, and would double now (and possibly once more). I'm surprised I seem to be all alone in that.
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Posted 2011-January-31, 15:24

 gordontd, on 2011-January-31, 12:32, said:

I'd have started with a 1♠ overcall, and would double now (and possibly once more). I'm surprised I seem to be all alone in that.

my plan too, not sure how good/bad it is though.
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Posted 2011-January-31, 17:04

 mhe, on 2011-January-31, 15:24, said:

my plan too, not sure how good/bad it is though.


i think it's a fine plan. you have too good a hand to bid 1 spade normally, but you have so few hearts the prospect of it going all pass is around 0
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