BBO Discussion Forums: Quick Poll - BBO Discussion Forums

Jump to content

Page 1 of 1
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

Quick Poll

#1 User is offline   Phil 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 10,092
  • Joined: 2008-December-11
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:North Texas, USA
  • Interests:Mountain Biking

Posted 2011-January-21, 16:29



Matchpoints

Your call over 2♠?

Need some "C" players +/- 200 mps to answer this. If you want to email me at oakleafequities@yahoo.com with a private response, that's fine.

Sorry - 2♠ is natural - ignore the notation. If you are wondering, a double by partner would have been 'stolen bid' for a signoff in clubs or diamonds.
Hi y'all!

Winner - BBO Challenge bracket #6 - February, 2017.
0

#2 User is offline   dickiegera 

  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Full Members
  • Posts: 569
  • Joined: 2009-July-12
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Ohio

Posted 2011-January-21, 17:06

The hand as given is why you should not play stolen bids.

Since double for penalty is not available I would bid 3 Spades stayman and if that is not stayman
I guess I would bid 3NT and hope partner has a Spade stopper or pulls it if he doesn"t
0

#3 User is offline   gwnn 

  • Csaba the Hutt
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 13,027
  • Joined: 2006-June-16
  • Gender:Male
  • Interests:bye

Posted 2011-January-21, 17:54

you misread the post dickiegera. you're the 1NT opener
... and I can prove it with my usual, flawless logic.
      George Carlin
0

#4 User is offline   mr1303 

  • Admirer of Walter the Walrus
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 2,563
  • Joined: 2003-November-14
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Ulaanbaatar, Mongolia
  • Interests:Bridge, surfing, water skiing, cricket, golf. Generally being outside really.

Posted 2011-January-22, 04:30

Pass. If I double, partner will probably bid clubs, and I'm stymied. I have good defense here.
0

#5 User is offline   Phil 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 10,092
  • Joined: 2008-December-11
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:North Texas, USA
  • Interests:Mountain Biking

Posted 2011-January-22, 11:05

I guess I wish more C players read the forums. :(

As I have done in the past, I didn't post this in the IBLF, since I didn't want to give it away this was a poll for determining LA's.

The partner of this hand asked about 2♠ (not alerted) and then paused a little, and passed. I thought this hesitation and inquiry about a non alerted bid created UI. The UI seems to suggest bidding instead of passing.

The tabled result was 3♠ -1 when this hand balanced and the opps competed to 3♠.

I adjusted back to 2♠=. If you are curious, 4♥ makes since partner has A T9xxx xxx Qxxx.
Hi y'all!

Winner - BBO Challenge bracket #6 - February, 2017.
0

#6 User is offline   ggwhiz 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 3,952
  • Joined: 2008-June-23
  • Gender:Male

Posted 2011-January-22, 11:56

Pass is certainly a logical alternative.

With my partnership methods, I would bid over a smooth pass (and catch pard with a 3-3-3-4 yarborough) so I wouldn't be too tough on the offender but agree with your ruling.
When a deaf person goes to court is it still called a hearing?
What is baby oil made of?
0

#7 User is offline   Siegmund 

  • Alchemist
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 1,764
  • Joined: 2004-June-15
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Beside a little lake in northwestern Montana
  • Interests:Creator of the 'grbbridge' LaTeX typesetting package.

Posted 2011-January-22, 12:54

Apparently it does depend on partnership agreements given ggwhiz's post. (But I've never run into any C players who had solid two-places-to-play agreements even in much more obvious spots than this one.) The way I play and the way nov/ints are taught to play, it looks like pass with nothing else to even think about, and the firing squad for anybody who bids.
0

#8 User is offline   mtvesuvius 

  • Vesuvius the Violent Volcano
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 3,216
  • Joined: 2008-December-04
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Tampa-Area, Florida
  • Interests:SLEEPING

Posted 2011-January-22, 12:58

I think pass is definitely a logical alternative, even if I might not choose it at the table, it would certainly be considered. The UI clearly suggests bidding, so I agree with your ruling.
Yay for the "Ignored Users" feature!
0

#9 User is offline   ggwhiz 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 3,952
  • Joined: 2008-June-23
  • Gender:Male

Posted 2011-January-22, 14:45

View PostSiegmund, on 2011-January-22, 12:54, said:

and the firing squad for anybody who bids.


Reminds me of one of my favorite Director rulings told to me by a friend.

After 1nt - 2♥ - huddle pass - pass - 2♠, she gently called the Director as this pair was obviously new to duplicate.

Since it was the 3rd time in 4 or 5 rounds that the Director was called against this pair, he looked at all the hands and said "Double and lead trumps".
When a deaf person goes to court is it still called a hearing?
What is baby oil made of?
0

#10 User is offline   vuroth 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 1,459
  • Joined: 2007-June-03
  • Gender:Male

Posted 2011-January-22, 21:00

Pass
Still decidedly intermediate - don't take my guesses as authoritative.

"gwnn" said:

rule number 1 in efficient forum reading:
hanp does not always mean literally what he writes.
0

#11 User is offline   jillybean 

  • hooked
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 10,209
  • Joined: 2003-November-15
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:Vancouver, Canada
  • Interests:Multi

Posted 2011-January-22, 21:11

View Postvuroth, on 2011-January-22, 21:00, said:

Pass

agree
"And no matter what methods you play, it is essential, for anyone aspiring to learn to be a good player, to learn the importance of bidding shape properly." MikeH
0

#12 User is offline   kriegel 

  • PipPipPip
  • Group: Full Members
  • Posts: 55
  • Joined: 2011-January-23

Posted 2011-January-23, 20:28

Yeah, stolen bids at this level are not good. Personally, I only use X as stolen over 2♣, but over 2♦, it could work too.

I play negative doubles, so with competing strength and 2 spades, partner would have doubled. I pass.
0

#13 User is offline   Free 

  • mmm Duvel
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 10,728
  • Joined: 2003-July-30
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Belgium
  • Interests:Duvel, Whisky

Posted 2011-January-25, 04:41

Pass is clear, opener can't Dbl or bid anything imo. The hesitation clearly suggested bidding.

Responder with that shape should've just doubled for takeout.
"It may be rude to leave to go to the bathroom, but it's downright stupid to sit there and piss yourself" - blackshoe
0
Page 1 of 1
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

1 User(s) are reading this topic
0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users