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4!S overcall opinions please

#1 User is offline   sceptic 

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Posted 2004-August-27, 18:58


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West North East South

 -     -     -     1♦
 4♠    Dbl   Pass  Pass
 Pass  

Is this a sound 4 spade overcall or should I have bid 3 spades? opinions please
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Posted 2004-August-28, 02:49

sceptic, on Aug 28 2004, 12:58 AM, said:


Scoring: IMP


West North East South

- - - 1♦
4♠ Dbl Pass Pass
Pass

Is this a sound 4 spade overcall or should I have bid 3 spades? opinions please

Most 8 card suits are sound 4 level overcalls. Especially where they are headed by 3 of the top five honours. Good bid!

Opps have a laydown 3NT (in fact they make 5NT), and you are only 2 down in 4Sx. It looks a good result to me.

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Posted 2004-August-28, 09:04

I think I'd also bid 4♠, but I always hate the 3 card ♥... You can see by partner's hand why :)
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Posted 2004-August-28, 09:17

For what its worth, I held the same hand and chose to overcall 1♠. I thought that the hand had too many first round controls to jump to 4♠.
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Posted 2004-August-28, 10:34

Nice bid Sceptic!

As your skills develop, you will learn the importance of pressure bidding.

Here, 3N is easy, but arguably you take take a push to 4♠ over 3N; although they might find a push to 4N. Playing 4N is literally impossible after your direct 4♠ call.

The unlucky part of the deal is the fact you can beat 5♦ (-2).
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Posted 2004-August-28, 12:06

4S far better call than 3S. I would expect to get very little argument there.
I tend to lead fourth best - as opposed to the best suit, the second best suit, or the third best suit for our side
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Posted 2004-August-28, 12:10

hrothgar, on Aug 28 2004, 03:17 PM, said:

For what its worth, I held the same hand and chose to overcall 1♠. I thought that the hand had too many first round controls to jump to 4♠.

What did you do when 3NT came back to you?

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Posted 2004-August-28, 12:18

EricK, on Aug 28 2004, 09:10 PM, said:

hrothgar, on Aug 28 2004, 03:17 PM, said:

For what its worth, I held the same hand and chose to overcall 1♠.  I thought that the hand had too many first round controls to jump to 4♠.

What did you do when 3NT came back to you?

Eric

At my table, LHO raised diamonds rather than trying for a NT game.
I eventually declared 4♠X, making on a mis-defense.
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Posted 2004-August-28, 12:22

hrothgar, on Aug 28 2004, 06:18 PM, said:

EricK, on Aug 28 2004, 09:10 PM, said:

hrothgar, on Aug 28 2004, 03:17 PM, said:

For what its worth, I held the same hand and chose to overcall 1♠.  I thought that the hand had too many first round controls to jump to 4♠.

What did you do when 3NT came back to you?

Eric

At my table, LHO raised diamonds rather than trying for a NT game.
I eventually declared 4♠X, making on a mis-defense.

Diamond ruffed, trump, diamond ruffed, trump, Heart ducked, heart continuation?

Eric
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Posted 2004-August-28, 12:24

EricK, on Aug 28 2004, 09:22 PM, said:

hrothgar, on Aug 28 2004, 06:18 PM, said:

EricK, on Aug 28 2004, 09:10 PM, said:

hrothgar, on Aug 28 2004, 03:17 PM, said:

For what its worth, I held the same hand and chose to overcall 1♠.  I thought that the hand had too many first round controls to jump to 4♠.

What did you do when 3NT came back to you?

Eric

At my table, LHO raised diamonds rather than trying for a NT game.
I eventually declared 4♠X, making on a mis-defense.

Diamond ruffed, trump, diamond ruffed, trump, Heart ducked, heart continuation?

Eric

Close but no cigar...

I ducked a heart, however, it was a diamond continuation after the duck...
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