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#1 User is offline   MrAce 

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Posted 2010-December-17, 17:49



IMPS (actually team match, not imp pairs) WEST and NORTH are worldclass players if that matters

a-Do you agree with first 1 doubled pass ?

b-Would you pass this or pull ? If decide to pull what would u bid ?

c-If you wouldn't pass the first time (1 dbled) what would be your choice of bid ?
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Posted 2010-December-17, 17:57

1. No, I would have bid 2 on the way to some number of spades.
2. No way... I bid 2 now if I have to pass the first time...
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Posted 2010-December-17, 18:48

I won't sit for this double at the 1 level, what is the range for 1NT now?, got no clue so would bid spades to avoid confusion.
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Posted 2010-December-17, 19:41

a No
b I wouldn't be in this position but if you put me in as a sub, I bid
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Posted 2010-December-17, 20:07

I'd bid what I would have bid earlier instead of pass: 2.

 wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

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Posted 2010-December-17, 20:13

First pass seems pretty obvious, not sitting for this one though.
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Posted 2010-December-17, 20:48

I wouldn't pass the first time, but I probably don't pass enough in this situations. It seems when I do I lose a game against down 1 or they make 1 when RHO actually has clubs.

No way I will sit; I'd bid a number of spades now.
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Posted 2010-December-18, 01:20

Ok guys, sorry all, it is my bad to put it late but i will add another question then, which i think is important and related to others.

3-If you wouldn't pass the first time (1 dbled) what would be your choice of bid ?
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Posted 2010-December-18, 09:32

1.D4 to DA, 2.Dr, 3.H5 to HQ over HK, 4.Dr, 5.H6 to HA,
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Posted 2010-December-18, 10:00

View PostMrAce, on 2010-December-18, 01:20, said:

Ok guys, sorry all, it is my bad to put it late but i will add another question then, which i think is important and related to others.

3-If you wouldn't pass the first time (1 dbled) what would be your choice of bid ?


I think the first pass is okay, but I would now simply bid 1.
1 now shows values. With a weak hand and s you would not have tried to play 1 doubled.
Bidding 2 now should show a better hand, more than a minimum opening bid, which could not bid immediately because of long . Also the hands seem not to fit too well.

If I would not sit for 1 doubled (why?), I would have bid 2. This hand is a minimum invite opposite a reopening double, which can be at least a king weaker than in second position.

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Posted 2010-December-18, 11:01

View PostMrAce, on 2010-December-17, 17:49, said:



IMPS (actually team match, not imp pairs) WEST and NORTH are worldclass players if that matters

a-Do you agree with first 1 doubled pass ?

b-Would you pass this or pull ? If decide to pull what would u bid ?

c-If you wouldn't pass the first time (1 dbled) what would be your choice of bid ?


I don't think your side is going to get rich defending 1D doubled when the opponents have an eight card diamond fit when our side has an eight card spade fit. I would bid 2S now which would pretty much tell partner my whole story.

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Posted 2010-December-19, 02:16

That was an interesting board i kibbed.

1 doubled going down 3 for + 800

1 doubled down 2 for +500

We can make 3 NT, bu we better bid it since we refused 500 or 800, however its not easy to bid, 13 vs 10 hcp and longest suit is opened by opponents.

Pd held;

Txx
KQxx
AKJ7
Tx

This EW sat on both 1 and then 1 double. West a very good player (Sergey Kustarov) started with A and switched to T, took 500.

Interesting though, North player opened 1 with 3 and 4 and i dunno why. They found their 4-4 fit though.

South had to guess to run to 1 from;

Qxx
xxx
xxxx
Jxx
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Posted 2010-December-19, 02:57

View PostHanoi5, on 2010-December-17, 20:07, said:

I'd bid what I would have bid earlier instead of pass: 2.


Agree with the above; the first pass is silly.
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