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rebid control 1st con trol OR 1st and 2nd?
#1
Posted 2010-December-17, 11:58
This question comes from another post:
If you play Italian controls (1st and 2nd controls) and you rebid a control is that generally showing?:
- 1st control; or (Ax. or void)
- 1st and 2nd control (A, AK or void)
If you play Italian controls (1st and 2nd controls) and you rebid a control is that generally showing?:
- 1st control; or (Ax. or void)
- 1st and 2nd control (A, AK or void)
#3
Posted 2010-December-17, 12:05
First and Second... Keycard is usually fine otherwise
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#4
Posted 2010-December-17, 15:37
1st and 2nd seems to be standard.
I never realised this (I should check this with my partner).
...Maybe you don't need 1st only because RKC can cover these. If anyone has seen an explanation for this preference then I would be interested.
I never realised this (I should check this with my partner).
...Maybe you don't need 1st only because RKC can cover these. If anyone has seen an explanation for this preference then I would be interested.
#6
Posted 2010-December-18, 10:30
Wrong forum.
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#9
Posted 2010-December-18, 19:03
Actually, it depends...
If the control bid is truly a side control situation (neither a suit you already showed or one that partner already showed), then IMO the only assured thing is first round.
If the control bid is truly a side control situation (neither a suit you already showed or one that partner already showed), then IMO the only assured thing is first round.
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#10
Posted 2010-December-20, 08:43
This is what I found in an old document (1990) of Claudio Petroncini and Giorgio Belladonna:
Is this old or is it played differently in Italy...?
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Repeating ones cue-bid that had not specified the type of control or making a cue-bid in a suit skipped by partner confirms 1st-round control in the suit
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Skipping a suit, in which the player has shown a control directly (with a cue-bid) or indirectly (continuing the dialogue despite partner have denied a control in the suit), specifies 2nd-round control only of the suit skipped
Is this old or is it played differently in Italy...?
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