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Crouch-Forrester system Basics?

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Posted 2010-December-12, 02:35

Can anyone out there inform me of the basics of the Crouch-Forrester system that they were using in the Gold Cup semifinal the other day? I only caught a glimpse of it in one hand (stanza 8, hand 32):

W: Crouch
N: Hallberg
E: Forrester
S: Burn

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Posted 2010-December-12, 03:19

The 1NT opening showed 14-16 balanced and 2 was (I think) just a transfer to hearts.

The 1NT opening was a psyche.

They were 81 IMPs down with 8 boards to go in a knockout match. Most teams would have conceded at that point. But if you decide to play on with the intention of winning 81 IMPs in 8 boards, you probably need a big swing in on every board, so there is a logic to trying a series of off-centre actions.
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Posted 2010-December-12, 03:34

lol@this one

they need a swing and get a nice shapely hand vulnerable? why not just bid normal and hope to be in the best contract on this one.
what miracles must happen to make 1nt a winning bid while 1club could EASILY bring you 13 imps in a normal auction where you bid/avoid slam grand game etc...
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Posted 2010-December-13, 03:35

View PostTomi2, on 2010-December-12, 03:34, said:

they need a swing and get a nice shapely hand vulnerable? why not just bid normal and hope to be in the best contract on this one.

Because the other table will bid normal and will hope to be in the best contract as well. Where will the swing come from if you both do the same?
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Posted 2010-December-13, 05:10

View PostFree, on 2010-December-13, 03:35, said:

Because the other table will bid normal and will hope to be in the best contract as well. Where will the swing come from if you both do the same?

I think there's a lot of swings coming from both tables bidding ostensibly normally, particularly when vulnerable with shapely hands.
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Posted 2010-December-13, 07:14

We should also, when considering such action, not discount the possibility that our team-mates sitting N/S on the hand may also be doing something (ahem) non-standard.

Anyway, I am not criticising the action. When I get to the semis of the Gold Cup then maybe I will.

Thanks for the system clarification.
Psych (pron. saik): A gross and deliberate misstatement of honour strength and/or suit length. Expressly permitted under Law 73E but forbidden contrary to that law by Acol club tourneys.

Psyche (pron. sahy-kee): The human soul, spirit or mind (derived, personification thereof, beloved of Eros, Greek myth).
Masterminding (pron. mPosted ImagesPosted ImagetPosted Imager-mPosted ImagendPosted Imageing) tr. v. - Any bid made by bridge player with which partner disagrees.

"Gentlemen, when the barrage lifts." 9th battalion, King's own Yorkshire light infantry,
2000 years earlier: "morituri te salutant"

"I will be with you, whatever". Blair to Bush, precursor to invasion of Iraq
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