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that's a huge hand for diamonds. That hand might have opened and now it needs to come alive. Seems like 3S is the least that hand can do.
I think we still get to slam after the conservative route I suggested (pass and bid only 2D). I think the hand should still splinter. Give partner a disappointing Kxxx x Kxxxx Kxx and 4D still makes.
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Posted 2010-December-08, 03:23
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Posted 2010-December-08, 03:55
One for CTC, but not the BBF version because we'll all recognize this one. 
EW can make 5♠ btw.
EW can make 5♠ btw.
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Posted 2010-December-08, 04:19
Free, on 2010-December-08, 03:55, said:
One for CTC, but not the BBF version because we'll all recognize this one. EW can make 5♠ btw.
EW can make 5♠ btw.Technically only 4♠
top spade, club and a heart ruff
although at MPs it is much harder to underlead the ♣ AK
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Posted 2010-December-08, 04:48
straube, on 2010-December-08, 03:23, said:
that's a huge hand for diamonds. That hand might have opened and now it needs to come alive. Seems like 3S is the least that hand can do.
I think we still get to slam after the conservative route I suggested (pass and bid only 2D). I think the hand should still splinter. Give partner a disappointing Kxxx x Kxxxx Kxx and 4D still makes.
I think we still get to slam after the conservative route I suggested (pass and bid only 2D). I think the hand should still splinter. Give partner a disappointing Kxxx x Kxxxx Kxx and 4D still makes.
I think u would play nothing but 2♦ if you passed 1♠ and bid only 2 ♦
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Posted 2010-December-08, 08:24
Just curious, which who's catch 3-seat 1S psych when 4S for us is on?
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Posted 2010-December-09, 08:50
OleBerg,
My agreement is VUL Unu2NT claims little more
than fit makes this our hand.
We don't eagerly show weakness!
My agreement includes deviations for 4-5 Unu2NT
especially to warn off the other major.
I can see where you project your agreements
into this discussion to find this Unu2NT is wrong.
MY agreement is well-discussed for how strong VUL
and what is allowed when missing other major.
Thus, both disciplined to our agreement(Exp) and agreed what is the best (say we) for Unu2NT(Adv).
That is Advanced & Expert.
Do you see this now?
My agreement is VUL Unu2NT claims little more
than fit makes this our hand.
We don't eagerly show weakness!
My agreement includes deviations for 4-5 Unu2NT
especially to warn off the other major.
I can see where you project your agreements
into this discussion to find this Unu2NT is wrong.
MY agreement is well-discussed for how strong VUL
and what is allowed when missing other major.
Thus, both disciplined to our agreement(Exp) and agreed what is the best (say we) for Unu2NT(Adv).
That is Advanced & Expert.
Do you see this now?
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Posted 2010-December-09, 09:05
dake50, on 2010-December-09, 08:50, said:
That is Advanced & Expert.
Do you see this now?
Not really.
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We should always assume 2/1 unless otherwise stated, because:
- If the original poster didn't bother to state his system, that means that he thinks it's obvious what he's playing. The only people who think this are 2/1 players.
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Posted 2010-December-09, 10:23
Discussion seeks an exploring of minds.
What do you think and why?
Close minded cannot get this idea of discussion.
I only can think I'm right is a defense mechanism
-- not logical discussion!
What do you think and why?
Close minded cannot get this idea of discussion.
I only can think I'm right is a defense mechanism
-- not logical discussion!
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Posted 2010-December-09, 10:46
dake50, on 2010-December-09, 10:23, said:
Discussion seeks an exploring of minds.
What do you think and why?
Close minded cannot get this idea of discussion.
I only can think I'm right is a defense mechanism
-- not logical discussion!
What do you think and why?
Close minded cannot get this idea of discussion.
I only can think I'm right is a defense mechanism
-- not logical discussion!
I'm rather pressed for time.
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We should always assume 2/1 unless otherwise stated, because:
- If the original poster didn't bother to state his system, that means that he thinks it's obvious what he's playing. The only people who think this are 2/1 players.
Gnasher
Do not underestimate the power of the dark side. Or the ninth trumph.
Best Regards Ole Berg
_____________________________________
We should always assume 2/1 unless otherwise stated, because:
- If the original poster didn't bother to state his system, that means that he thinks it's obvious what he's playing. The only people who think this are 2/1 players.
Gnasher
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Posted 2010-December-09, 16:40
dake50, on 2010-December-09, 08:50, said:
OleBerg,
My agreement is VUL Unu2NT claims little more
than fit makes this our hand.
We don't eagerly show weakness!
My agreement includes deviations for 4-5 Unu2NT
especially to warn off the other major.
I can see where you project your agreements
into this discussion to find this Unu2NT is wrong.
MY agreement is well-discussed for how strong VUL
and what is allowed when missing other major.
Thus, both disciplined to our agreement(Exp) and agreed what is the best (say we) for Unu2NT(Adv).
That is Advanced & Expert.
Do you see this now?
My agreement is VUL Unu2NT claims little more
than fit makes this our hand.
We don't eagerly show weakness!
My agreement includes deviations for 4-5 Unu2NT
especially to warn off the other major.
I can see where you project your agreements
into this discussion to find this Unu2NT is wrong.
MY agreement is well-discussed for how strong VUL
and what is allowed when missing other major.
Thus, both disciplined to our agreement(Exp) and agreed what is the best (say we) for Unu2NT(Adv).
That is Advanced & Expert.
Do you see this now?
I think using 2N (even by prior agreement) to show a 5/4 hand that can be either way (5D/4C or 4D/5C)is losing bridge because it shows too much preference for the minors and partner can't even tell which minor to support when he is 3/3.
I personally like a Michaels bid that promises only 4S with 5H (and many people hate that) because it is a lawful bid (very likely to stay at or below our law level) and because partner knows what to do with 3/3. That's a far cry from a 2N that can be 5/4 or 4/5 because we're likely to wind up above our law level (if we find our best fit at all). If you had the agreement that 2N showed 5/5 but you might do it with specifically 4D/5C and a strong hand, then that might win sometimes, but I still wouldn't like it.
Without a 5/5 minor hand, I'd rather bid one of my minors (if suitable) or double (if suitable) or pass.