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#1 User is offline   Valardent 

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Posted 2010-November-28, 14:11

7NT anyone?
Imps, west dealer

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Posted 2010-November-28, 15:16

1-2
2-2
3-4
4-4N
5-6
6-6
7N

2 artificial relay
3 maximum 2 rebid, 4
4RKCB
4N 1/4
5 signoff if one key card
6 K, 4 key cards, not K/
6 Q, still interested in grand, prepared to play 6N
7N I count 13
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Posted 2010-November-28, 15:34

1d=2c
2d(6)=3d
4d=4h(rkc in d)
4nt(1-4)=5c(q ask)
5s(QD&ks, deny kh)=6c(kc, grand try)
7c(qc)=7nt
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Posted 2010-November-29, 09:55

Awful hand for my system wich starts preempting ourselves.

1-1 (11-15 /nat or strong)
3NT-4 (4 hearts, 5+ diamonds splinter in clubs/ RCBW in diamonds)
4-4 (1 keycard, Q inquiry)
5-6 (Q+K, Queens) At 57 is unreacheable cos K is missing and no clue about diamond lenght, only try for 6NT
6-6NT (Q/to play)
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Posted 2010-November-30, 07:22

View Postmike777, on 2010-November-28, 15:34, said:

1d=2c
2d(6)=3d
4d=4h(rkc in d)
4nt(1-4)=5c(q ask)
5s(QD&ks, deny kh)=6c(kc, grand try)
7c(qc)=7nt


does opener really bids 4D here ? I think its wrong to bypass 3NT, as 3d isnt a slam try.
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Posted 2010-November-30, 08:52

View PostValardent, on 2010-November-28, 14:11, said:

7NT anyone?
Imps, west dealer


With no 2 quick losers in the side suits, Responder is ready to go RKC after a 2D rebid by Opener.
What better way than with Minorwood in a GF auction:

1D - 2C! ( GF )
2D - 4D! ( Minorwood )
4S! - 5C! ( dQ-ask as 4NT would be "to play" )
5S! - 5NT! ( 2nd K-ask , which would include cQ of the 2/1 suit )
6C! - 7NT ( counting on at least 6d, 3s, 1h, 3c )

where:
4S! = 2nd step, 1 or 4
5S! = dQ + sK, denying hK
6C! = cK or cQ
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Posted 2010-November-30, 10:06

I'm pretty sure I get stuck at 6NT:

1-2 (11-15 w/ 2+; 16+ NT, 16+ long or +)
2-3NT (Relay; 19-20, balanced)
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Posted 2010-November-30, 10:44

1 - 2
2 - 2
3 - 4
4 - 4NT
5 - ...

3+D, unbal 10-14 - Inv+ relay bal or clubs or diamonds invite
4 hearts - relay
2461 shape - rkc in D
1/4 - Q ask
DQ and HQ - And now I ran out of room, could find out either SK or CQ but not both.
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Posted 2010-November-30, 12:11

View PostFlameous, on 2010-November-30, 10:44, said:

1 - 2
2 - 2
3 - 4
4 - 4NT
5 - ...

3+D, unbal 10-14 - Inv+ relay bal or clubs or diamonds invite
4 hearts - relay
2461 shape - rkc in D
1/4 - Q ask
DQ and HQ - And now I ran out of room, could find out either SK or CQ but not both.


5H = dQ + hQ ?( ? I would not bid this since there really were not any Ht Ctrl bids showing the hK )
Instead:
5S = dQ + sQ, denying hK
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

At any rateyou do have enough room after 5H:

5 - 5 ( 2nd K-ask )
5NT! - 6 ( 3rd K-ask which would also include the cQ -- of the 2/1 suit )
( Responder won't make this bid with at least A K or A Q etc of Cl )

??
.. 6 = No cK or cQ
.. 6NT = cK or cQ ( NT shows asked-for feature )

After 6NT, Responder can count at least 13 tricks for 7NT
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Posted 2010-November-30, 15:32

View PostWGF_Flame, on 2010-November-30, 07:22, said:

does opener really bids 4D here ? I think its wrong to bypass 3NT, as 3d isnt a slam try.


2c shows a pretty decent hand for us and opener has more than a minimum hand for us...

2c and then 3d is a bit more slamish than 2nt rebid by responder for us but...


Even if you prefer 3nt by opener ...responder can bid 4h(rkc in d) over 3nt for same auction.
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Posted 2010-December-03, 04:25

1D = 10-17, 4+ diamonds, unbal
...1H = INV+ relay
1S = min, 0-3 spades unless 4441/4450
...1N = GF relay
2H = 4 hearts
...2S = relay
3D = 2=4=6=1
...3H = relay
3N = 3 controls
...4D = puppet to 4H
4H
...4S = RKCB for diamonds
4N = 1 keycard
...5C = Q ask
5S = DQ and SK
...5N = side queens?
6C = CQ
...7NT
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