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Cue bidding

Poll: Cue bidding (10 member(s) have cast votes)

When your first cue is ABOVE game it is?

  1. First round control (Ace, singleton) (1 votes [10.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 10.00%

  2. First or second round control (A,K,singleton,void) (9 votes [90.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 90.00%

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Posted 2010-November-11, 09:37

and why?
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Posted 2010-November-11, 10:01

A cue on the 5 level showes a first round control, a cue on the 4 level mixed.

So the answer is other.

The reason: If I cue on the 5 level, I have by passed the key card ask, for whatever
reason, and now I need to show the first round controls direct, otherwise how will
we ever find out, that we are missing two cashing Aces?

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Posted 2010-November-11, 11:01

It wildly depends on context. However, if the five-level call is a cue, and if it is the first cue, this generally means a hole, and hence mixed solves that problem whereas first-round does not. Of course, bidding the hole works best of all, but that's another story.
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Posted 2010-November-11, 11:51

A first cue above game level is more like an asking bid than a showing bid, so it could be anything, even xxx (althouh then the answer might not be very accurate :))
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Posted 2010-November-11, 17:50

View PostFluffy, on 2010-November-11, 11:51, said:

A first cue above game level is more like an asking bid than a showing bid, so it could be anything, even xxx (althouh then the answer might not be very accurate :))


I don't understand this, can you give an example?
I realise "standard" is 1st round control at the 5th level but I'm interested to know if anyone has any exceptions to this rule.
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Posted 2010-November-11, 21:22

View Postjillybean, on 2010-November-11, 17:50, said:

I don't understand this, can you give an example?
I realise "standard" is 1st round control at the 5th level but I'm interested to know if anyone has any exceptions to this rule.


Well, here's a simple one. Partner opens 4, and you have KQx AKQJxx AK xx. If you bid 5 as an asking bid, you will get to the right level. If you play cues instead of asks, then you would cue 5, isolating the club problem.
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