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#1 User is offline   MrAce 

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Posted 2010-November-09, 21:30



A- Playing in a team game in BBO; 2 weak 2, what do you lead ?

B- 2 alerted as +minor weak, again what do you lead?
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Posted 2010-November-09, 21:37

trump
That's impossible. No one can give more than one hundred percent. By definition that is the most anyone can give.
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Posted 2010-November-09, 21:41

.Double post
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Posted 2010-November-09, 21:42

View Post655321, on 2010-November-09, 21:37, said:

trump


I assume in both case...
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Posted 2010-November-09, 21:45

Trumpities! What could possibly go wrong?
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Posted 2010-November-09, 21:51

View PostMrAce, on 2010-November-09, 21:42, said:

View Post655321, on 2010-November-09, 21:37, said:

trump


I assume in both case...

Yes. A very distant second choice might be to lead the A against the 2-suiter to have a look, maybe have a better idea which minor declarer has, but that could be wrong in so many ways (perhaps declarer has Kx after all, perhaps he ruffs the heart and embarks on a crossruff, etc). Really I don't think it makes much if any difference whether declarer has shown a second suit or not, a trump just looks like the standout lead to me.
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Posted 2010-November-09, 21:55




So did i , for 300 while other table found the Ace lead and continued for 500. Partner could shift to though and save the day. Perhaps it could be a better topic if i just gave east hand and ask the defense after lead.
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Posted 2010-November-12, 15:49

As E, after lead , since you know decl has 5 pd is unlikely to lead from Hx therefore has xx. The A,K and A become a necessity for pd's x..I suppose he still needs som for his x , Q being more prob than J. Still not an easy defense for E.
Your lead is normal the other one is inspired. Nobody will shoot you for a normal lead however if A fails , it gets the premium horrible lead title.
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Posted 2010-November-12, 16:06

I think a trump is kind of lazy. Trump leads should be made for a reason, not because you don't like other leads. What does it accomplish besides lose a tempo. I understand the heart lead and like it slightly more than a minor suit lead, since it needs very little for it to be right.

We could also be in a cashout - imagine dummy with nothing more than the other diamond honors and 3 trump.
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Posted 2010-November-12, 21:24

View PostTataie, on 2010-November-12, 15:49, said:

As E, after lead , since you know decl has 5 pd is unlikely to lead from Hx therefore has xx. The A,K and A become a necessity for pd's x..I suppose he still needs som for his x , Q being more prob than J. Still not an easy defense for E.
Your lead is normal the other one is inspired. Nobody will shoot you for a normal lead however if A fails , it gets the premium horrible lead title.


How does E know i have xx , declarer opened weak 2 i may have stiff, no ? Also East is aware of the danger that declarer may have stiff , not necesarilly but likely. He has to make a move b4 king is established whether stiff or not . Trump back doesn't seem to make any good for defense after seeing the dummy.

@Phil; You have a point and i really wanted to make another lead, the problem was as numeric stated, it would be a guess in the dark. Ace lead could be as good as Ace lead in another deal, or both could give up a natural trick + tempo. I have 3 suits controlled and partner telling me he has stuff too...
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Posted 2010-November-13, 04:44

View PostMrAce, on 2010-November-09, 21:30, said:


A- Playing in a team game in BBO; 2 weak 2, what do you lead ?
B- 2 alerted as +minor weak, again what do you lead?
When RHO pre-empted, Rixi Markus advised an ace lead.
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Posted 2010-November-13, 20:00

View Postnige1, on 2010-November-13, 04:44, said:

When RHO pre-empted, Rixi Markus advised an ace lead.


Did she advice which one, in case u may have more than 1 ? :P
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Posted 2010-November-13, 22:15

View PostMrAce, on 2010-November-13, 20:00, said:

Did she adviced which one, in case u may have more than 1 ? :P



Conventional wisdom says your strongest Ace: AK>AQ>AJ/>Ax...etc..
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