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Balancing over weak 2D

#1 User is offline   the_dude 

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Posted 2010-November-10, 09:40



West opens Weak 2 .. passed around to South. Are you bidding, and if so, what?
If no one comes from the future to stop you from doing it then how bad a decision could it really be?
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Posted 2010-November-10, 09:56

Easy for me. I play DAPO*.
I have 2-suits takeout: bid the suit not held.
Here 2H shows S+C.
Next 2NT/3NT to show D-stop.
Double would be 3-suiter takeout OR 1-suiter to show next.
2S: H+C. 3C: S+H. Jump: 1-suiter shown.

Without DAPO, I try 2S. Hope that denies H-interest. 3NT over 3H.
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Posted 2010-November-10, 10:22

Scoring?
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Posted 2010-November-10, 10:28

View PostMickyB, on 2010-November-10, 10:22, said:

Scoring?


Whoops forgot .. is that missing on the new diagram? IMPS.
If no one comes from the future to stop you from doing it then how bad a decision could it really be?
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Posted 2010-November-10, 10:31

View Postthe_dude, on 2010-November-10, 09:40, said:

West opens Weak 2 .. passed around to South. Are you bidding, and if so, what?

I ask East if they have any partnership understanding/experience about playing multi 2 or transfer pre-empts :)

2NT, and hope opener won't lead .
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Posted 2010-November-10, 10:37

You have to bid.

It is either 2S or 2NT, take your poison.

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Posted 2010-November-10, 12:05

I've always thought that Roman Jumps are best used over a Weak-2D ... rather than any Lebensohl.

Roman ( big-2 suiter ) Jumps over weak-2D:
4C = C/H = bid suit and next higher
3H = H/S
3S = S/C
4D = 4 4 1 4
3D = stop-ask ( for 3NT )
4H/4S = to play

Just guessing what the DBL would mean:
DBL! = T/O ( weaker than 4D! ) OR long suit somewhere ( like Dake's DAPO, but I don't know the follow-ups )
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Posted 2010-November-10, 12:58

Barring that I am playing some ridiculous exclusion takeout that won't ever work when I have a single suit, except on this particular hand...

It seems like a 2 bid leaves us with the best chance of doing well on this board. The problem is that when I am having problems in 3N with heart stoppers, I may have the same problem in 4, especially if it's a 4-3 fit. I'm willing to take that chance though, it seems like bidding 2N is just advertising my diamond holding, and LHO will be leading hearts very often. I would bid 2.
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Posted 2010-November-10, 15:31

I tihnk it is pass or 2NT, pass has some appeal.

2 might work of course, but given that we have to lie about shape anyway that has the risk on playing in a short fit, why not make the bid that at least defines our strenght accuratelly.
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Posted 2010-November-10, 15:41

2NT, I like this a lot more than any of the suggested alternatives.
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