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How to do :) possibly interesting play problem

#1 User is offline   andreakis 

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Posted 2010-November-01, 17:36

during our team match this week I encountered interesting play problem

we nv opps v

you hold as N

KJ1096
96
AKQ2
K5

dealer south

N E S W
p 1D(unbal or 444(1))
1S x 2S 2nt(or 5-5 minors or 6+diamonds)
4S ppp

lead J

dummy

A75
743
1043
J1064

how do you play it
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Posted 2010-November-01, 18:21

It looks like East is 4612. I cant pick up Qxxx onside without suffering a ruff, so I play for a singleton queen offside.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2010-November-01, 20:04

oops got hands reversed
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Posted 2010-November-01, 20:24

View Postgnasher, on 2010-November-01, 18:21, said:

It looks like East is 4612. I cant pick up Qxxx onside without suffering a ruff, so I play for a singleton queen offside.


I suggested something that didn't make sense, original post is hard to follow.
Playing with the new diagrams:


This post has been edited by 655321: 2010-November-01, 20:31

That's impossible. No one can give more than one hundred percent. By definition that is the most anyone can give.
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Posted 2010-November-01, 21:51

Assuming 655321 has the bidding and explainations correct.

West looks to be 5-5 in the minors. East does not have a take a look lead (like from AK of hearts), and the !DJ is singleton. West has at least one of the top two heart honors, so at most two spades. Can East have 7 hearts? They would be KQJTxxx at worse, and we would have heard some kind of heart bid over 1 (maybe even 4). So East has at most six hearts, and might have only five, in which case West is void in spades.

I can't take a 4-0 spade split, as after !SJT win, I have to win third spade in dummy and I have no entry to my hand to pull the last . They will get 2, 1, and a ruff

So I play East for six hearts, and three spades. I cash K then pass the J. Eventuallly, I will lead a club towards the king. I plan to win 5, 4, and a .
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Posted 2010-November-02, 03:40

Sorry, yes that's real diagram same I imagined in first post :), I will give the explanation soon
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Posted 2010-November-02, 06:35

View Postgnasher, on 2010-November-01, 18:21, said:

It looks like East is 4612. I cant pick up Qxxx onside without suffering a ruff, so I play for a singleton queen offside.

this certainly looks like the only way to me also.

edit: If the Q doesn't come down, I'll still run the SJ; Qxx onside would then be my only hope.
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Posted 2010-November-03, 10:00

I played the same line, cashed K and finessed the queen the spades were 4-1 and I went one down.
West had
x
AQxx
xxxx
AQxx
the bid was alerted at other side of screen, my partner didn't ask, opponents don't have convention card and west said she wanted to bid weak 4 card raise in hearts and that system shows 5-5 minors or 6+ diamonds, do you think there is a chance director can adjust the score.
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