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Another Missed Slam

#1 User is offline   TWO4BRIDGE 

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Posted 2010-October-31, 06:28

Can you do better after 1C - ( 3H ) - ??

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Posted 2010-October-31, 07:02

Not sure if i will reach slam but I don't like West's bid of 5. I think West should make a forcing pass and pass if partner doubles. Here of course, East will bid 4 showing 6-5 after which I have no clue what I will bid as West heh
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Posted 2010-October-31, 07:16

It's difficult to know what to do, but partner didn't have to bid 5. In fact with 3 aces and nothing wasted in I might have almost have been inclined to take the forcing pass then pull a double approach to show a really good hand.

You want to be in a slam opposite AJ and an ace pretty much with the E hand (yes you may have issues opposite xxx, but 5 would be brave with that).

I think I'd be inclined to bid 6 over 5, but I think it's close.

It's much easier over the auction I'd get with a weak no trump from W where I know partner has at least 2 cards in each of my suits and 3-2 almost all the time.
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Posted 2010-October-31, 08:49

I'd bid 3 as east and then it is close between 5 and 6 after partner makes a forcing pass.

After 4, if west passes, it is to pull the double, so he has to bid 6 over partner's 4.

Note that it is completelly different a forcing pass over 3 (planning to pass the double) and 4 (planning to invite to slam).

4 after 4 doesn't show more than a 6-4
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Posted 2010-October-31, 08:56

This is a tough hand. As East, I expect the bidding to come back to me with some number of Hearts, and then I can introduce Spades, completing the hand description. However, when partner raises there will always be a problem now. I would probably bid a practical 3, however I think this decision worked out better. I think I'd bid 5 over 5 as East. Perhaps I'm resulting a bit, but I think that if partner had Heart values, he would be doubling 4, and partner cannot have the KQJ of either pointed suit... So for his 5 call, I am hoping for at least two Aces, perhaps more. 5 on the way will give partner a bit of encouragement if he holds something like Ax xx Axx AKxxxx I hope as well.
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Posted 2010-October-31, 09:45

I suppose West 4NT was A-ask.
I much prefer 4NT as "I got slammy stuff raise" -- here 3xAces.
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Posted 2010-October-31, 09:50

View Postdake50, on 2010-October-31, 09:45, said:

I suppose West 4NT was A-ask.
I much prefer 4NT as "I got slammy stuff raise" -- here 3xAces.
East sees H-void may go grand.

Really? You want to be in a grand on a finesse? If that's not resulting, I don't know what is.
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Posted 2010-October-31, 11:11

View Postmtvesuvius, on 2010-October-31, 09:50, said:

Really? You want to be in a grand on a finesse? If that's not resulting, I don't know what is.


And wants to be in a grand opposite AJx, A1098x in the minors.
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Posted 2010-November-01, 00:36

For those that think East should move over 5D, West's bidding seems to be perfectly consistent with A/J5/AJ95/JT9873 for example. Or 9/J54/AJ95/KJT973 perhaps. I think the only reasonable way to reach this with any confidence is if West passes over 4H. Then East will have a pretty clear 6D bid after a couple of rounds.
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