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How many spades does responder have? 2/1: 1S-2D-2H-3NT

Poll: How many spades does responder have? (19 member(s) have cast votes)

Playing 2/1: 1S-2D-2H-3NT. How many spades for 3NT bidder?

  1. Always one spade (2 votes [10.53%])

    Percentage of vote: 10.53%

  2. Always two spades (5 votes [26.32%])

    Percentage of vote: 26.32%

  3. Either one or two spades is okay (12 votes [63.16%])

    Percentage of vote: 63.16%

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#1 User is offline   awm 

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Posted 2010-October-29, 11:57

Playing 2/1 (basically Lawrence style), how do you take the auction 1♠-2♦-2♥-3NT? It seems standard that this shows about 15-17 hcp, with weaker or stronger hands instead bidding 2NT. But how many spades will responder have here?
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Posted 2010-October-29, 12:00

For me, it's nearly always 2, but might be 1 with a 1354 shape with a poor club suit.
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Posted 2010-October-29, 13:30

The corollary question here is what should opener do over 3NT holding an intermediate (14+-17) 6-4 hand with 6 spades: bid 4S completing his/her pattern risking finding responder with 1 (or, omg, 0) spades, or just passing 3NT. This is one problem that arises from not having a natural 2NT ressponse available to help describe yet limit responder's hand.


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Posted 2010-October-29, 13:51

Since 3NT takes so much room, I want it narrowly defined in both shape and strength. 2-3-5-3 shape and 15-17 HCP for me.
 
 
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Posted 2010-October-29, 13:54

View Postbucky, on 2010-October-29, 13:51, said:

Since 3NT takes so much room, I want it narrowly defined in both shape and strength. 2-3-5-3 shape and 15-17 HCP for me.


Agreed. If responder has a tough distribution like 1-3-5-4, then I'd prefer 2NT. In fact I think that's what Lawrence recommends with that distribution.
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