[karlson]

Wow, there was an almost identical hand posted a few days ago, where responder could have jumped to 3N to show 15-17 and solve all problems. I don't see why it wouldn't work here also. 1h-2d-2h-3n-4x is for sure a cue for hearts to me, there's no other suit you could reasonably have a slam try with.

[bucky]

karlson, on 2010-October-28, 16:40, said:

Wow, there was an almost identical hand posted a few days ago, where responder could have jumped to 3N to show 15-17 and solve all problems. I don't see why it wouldn't work here also. 1h-2d-2h-3n-4x is for sure a cue for hearts to me, there's no other suit you could reasonably have a slam try with.

Yeah, I am also curious, for those who chose to bid 2NT at responder's second turn, what would be a 3NT bid in their system?

I can see that 1h-2d-2h-3n-4x is cuebid if x is not d or h. But would 4D be universally viewed as cuebid? What if the opener has 6-4 in red suits?

[Zelandakh]

Playing 2/1 I think Ben's auction looks ok except that 6H instead of 6NT is surely indicated as choice of slams with Hx support. Playing my own strong club method which also opens this hand 1H you can bid the slam with fair accuracy.

S: 1H = 10-17, 5+ hearts
N: 1S = INV+ relay
S: 2H = max, 1-suited, GF
N: 2S = relay
S: 2N = 3 spades, 6-7 hearts
N: 3C = relay
S: 3S = 3622
N: 4D = puppet to 4H
S: 4H
N: 4N = RKCB for hearts
S: 5S = 2/5+q
N: 5N = king ask
S: 6H

[the hog]

Pretty obvious 3H bid by South for me. Now it is easy.

Mikeh, "The death hands for 2/1 GF" If this is a death hand for 2/1, then there is something seriously wrong with that system.

Personally with a regular pd I would rebid 2NT as opener as we have a gadget for hands like this. However posting one's home grown methods is pretty useless if noone else plays them.

[kenrexford]

Cascade, on 2010-October-28, 16:13, said:

Do you have to bid 4♥ with a weaker hand? If not (10)11-16 seems a wide range for non-serious.

I agree that this is a large range. Unfortunately, the 3♥ raise does cause that problem. But, yes I would bid 4♥ with some other trashy hands. On the other hand, points??? What's this points business?

[cherdano]

Phil, on 2010-October-28, 10:26, said:

We bid:

1♥ - 2♦
2♥ - 3♣
3N - 4N
6N

I think he bid 3♣ to avoid wrong siding the NT. I could have bid 3♥, but w/e.

I felt like this was a slight plus position, but the other table (who are not great players) got to 7♥ which rolled on 4-2 diamonds + the spade finesse. I put it about 50%, although a spade lead makes you choose between 3-3 diamonds and the spade + 4-2 diamonds.

I hate your partner's bidding, 3♣ is a misbid and 4NT an overbid.

I am with bucky and karlson, if responder rebids 3NT over 2♥, getting to slam is easy.

[Phil]

cherdano, on 2010-October-29, 11:09, said:

I hate your partner's bidding, 3♣ is a misbid and 4NT an overbid.

I am with bucky and karlson, if responder rebids 3NT over 2♥, getting to slam is easy.

I'm sympathetic, but I agree its a misbid. He's big on rightsiding Axx.

[gwnn]

Well I'm not sure if I'd reproduce this but it would be pretty cool to go:

1♥-2♦
2♥-3N 15-17
4N-6♥ (must be Hx)
pass

quantitative and natural auctions are always pleasing to the eye, even if possibly influenced by seeing both hands.