Multi Landy Is it allowed on BBO acbl tournaments?
#1
Posted 2010-October-22, 01:19
A friend of mine regularly plays acbl tournaments on bbo and he recently reported what I have given below in bold.
"I was warned by director for bidding 2D over 1NT as single suit major. I (had) alerted the opponents. He says that according to ACBL any bid after 1NT other than double and 2C cannot have a meaning other than bid suit. It can be bid suit plus something else. Since my 2D did not imply diamond suit my bid was deemed illegal
Does it mean Multi Landy is not allowed on bbo acbl tournaments?
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#2
Posted 2010-October-22, 05:38
Jacki, who organizes our ACBL games, will take a look. Meanwhile, if you don't mind, drop her an IM or an email ( @bridgebase.com ) with your friends name and we'll clear this up. I'm sure you could email Rulings@acbl.org and get an official opinion as well
The GCC says, about defences to 1N openers and overcalls "... direct calls, other than double and two clubs must have at least one known suit."
Maybe the GCC has been updated, but barring that, it seems like 2D = either major would not be legal under the GCC
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#3
Posted 2010-October-22, 09:51
The rules are what they are, I am glad someone is checking, and I will conform. However, my view is that at least in defending against the weak no trump, some flexibility would be very desirable. If it's not, it's not. I'll survive as long as the rules are the same for everyone.
#4
Posted 2010-October-22, 09:55
This is complicated a bit by the fact that quite a number of districts (including most of the west coast and the mid-atlantic region on the east coast) have decided to legalize any defense to the opponents notrump at the general chart level. The upshot is that if I play in the pairs at my local sectional, multi-landy is legal... but if I play in a (non NABC+) open pairs at nationals then multi-landy is not legal.
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#5
Posted 2010-October-22, 09:57
#6
Posted 2010-October-26, 09:39
There has been several attempts since the "except double and 2C" condition was added to allowed NT defences to remove it; they have always failed. I don't know why. In New Orleans, there was a motion to add 2D (only) to the allowed "non-suit" calls - that was also defeated. I agree with this one - if you're going to go that far, just revert to the old rule and allow any defence to NT again.
#7
Posted 2010-October-26, 09:48
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#8
Posted 2010-October-26, 09:51
rduran1216, on 2010-October-26, 09:48, said:
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nevermind, i am dumb
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#9
Posted 2010-October-26, 13:32
rduran1216, on 2010-October-26, 09:48, said:
awm, on 2010-October-22, 09:55, said:
...and there's your curious (emphasis mine). Having said that, it was usually posted on flyers in the area that the tournaments are "GCC + any defence to NT" (it seems not to be now; I guess that's a district decision that you're just supposed to know).
#10
Posted 2010-October-26, 20:00
Some people play that after 1NT-pass, a call of 2♠ by responder shows an unspecified minor. Is this GCC legal? It seems weird to allow the NT team to use a 2♠ bid to show an unspecified minor but forbid the defense team to use 2♦ to show an unspecified major.
Not that I have ever thought logic really has much to do with any of this.
"No reason, just policy" is an explanation for many rules. I have other fish to fry.
#11
Posted 2010-October-27, 03:48
#12
Posted 2010-October-27, 03:52
#13
Posted 2010-October-27, 05:21