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Pass or Bid? Clear choice or partnership Agreement...

Poll: A disagreement at the table... (45 member(s) have cast votes)

What is East's next bid?

  1. Pass (because partner has another bid) (1 votes [2.22%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 2.22%

  2. 3D (best of the unbid suits) (34 votes [75.56%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 75.56%

  3. Something else (10 votes [22.22%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 22.22%

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Posted 2010-October-21, 21:03


:blink:

A bit of confusion as to what East's next move should be in this sequence. (Both pairs playing 2/1)

What are your thoughts and why?

Is this a clear choice :unsure: or up for partnership discussion?
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Posted 2010-October-21, 21:10

voted 'other' since 2D is insufficient.
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Posted 2010-October-21, 21:35

Partner made a takeout double, pass is for penalties, so 3♦.


View Postmasse24, on 2010-October-21, 21:03, said:

What are your thoughts and why?


Well since you ask, the old forums allowed large text, colored text, etc too, I am wondering why are so many people are using it now!
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Posted 2010-October-21, 22:15

Yup, mis-read the auction first time but pard asked us to pick a red wuit and I have one. 3 diamonds it is.
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Posted 2010-October-21, 22:23

Partner made a takeout x. I have Ds so I bid Ds.
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Posted 2010-October-21, 22:40

This is going to end badly for sure. Partner better have a mighty good reason to have stuck his oar in at his 3rd chance.

Only question now is whether we bid 2NT to keep clubs in the picture or 3D to pick. If partner waited to double because he had only the red suits, doesn't much matter.
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Posted 2010-October-22, 02:35

pass is to paly so take out to your best suit, 2NT is a distant option.
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Posted 2010-October-22, 05:45

View PostFluffy, on 2010-October-22, 02:35, said:

pass is to paly so take out to your best suit, 2NT is a distant option.

imo this is up for agreement. With some I play that pass shows no preference, with some I play pass is a suggestion to play. With some I play both, depending on the level.

In either case, though, 3d must be right.


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Posted 2010-October-22, 08:11

3♦ is clear imo.
Partner didn't double 1NT (t/o of ♠, so he's not prepared to play there. 2NT should show clubs and tolerance for one or both red suits here.
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Posted 2010-October-22, 08:23

pass is bad, 3♦.
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Posted 2010-October-22, 08:36

2NT Partner bid your minor
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Posted 2010-October-22, 11:00

3♦ for sure. Passing is a suggestion to play, and I certainly hope partner can explain why he didn't bid the first two times.

The only hand that comes to mind is something like xx Kxxx KQxxx Qx. It's only 50s...
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Posted 2010-October-22, 12:35

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Posted 2010-October-22, 12:36

3♦. I would want better clubs to suggest playing there with 2N.
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Posted 2010-October-22, 14:18

View PostSiegmund, on 2010-October-21, 22:40, said:

This is going to end badly for sure. Partner better have a mighty good reason to have stuck his oar in at his 3rd chance.

Only question now is whether we bid 2NT to keep clubs in the picture or 3D to pick. If partner waited to double because he had only the red suits, doesn't much matter.

I don't think partner cares for clubs, or he would have doubled right after 1NT. 3♦ seems quite clear. I would want to have longer and stronger clubs to bid 2NT here.
 
 
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Posted 2010-October-22, 14:21

FWIW, I think pass here would be penalty, showing a hand that would have passed partner's double, had RHO not rewinded.
 
 
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Posted 2010-October-22, 14:28

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Posted 2010-October-22, 14:33

I am fairly new, so just curious: what is new on the public poll in this new forum, compared with the poll in old forum?
 
 
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Posted 2010-October-29, 03:56

you can click on the "view" links next to the results to see who voted for each option.
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Posted 2010-October-29, 09:23

View Postmasse24, on 2010-October-21, 21:03, said:


:blink:

A bit of confusion as to what East's next move should be in this sequence. (Both pairs playing 2/1)

What are your thoughts and why?


I was wondering why the hell the suit fonts are so small that I can't tell the difference between a ♠ and a ♣. They didn't even use different colors.

Anyway after rethinking the bidding and correcting(in my mind) opener's 1♠ call to 1♣ I would call 3♣ leaving the opps to guess what to do at the 3 level
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