[billw55]

Interesting, this is apparently pretty standard and I wasn't aware of it. Shows what I know

From Bridge World Standard:

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E. Competition After Our Minor-Suit Opening
(See also section F., below)

After our minor-suit opening and a takeout double:

(a) a one-level new-suit response is forcing (by an unpassed hand);

(b.) one diamond — (double) — two clubs is not forcing;

[pooltuna]

gwnn, on 2010-October-20, 11:49, said:

♣? no it's green but why do you want black clubs? they're ugly.

Clearly you have not played enough ♣ contracts

[wyman]

Cascade, on 2010-October-20, 12:05, said:

wyman, on 2010-October-20, 08:31, said:

billw55, on 2010-October-20, 08:29, said:

Does 2NT show this much strength over 2♣? If so, how would you show a balanced minimum?

Pass.

(at least on my card: Over opps t/o double New Suit Forcing [x] 1 level [ ] 2 level)

Even if 2♣ is not forcing we surely want to bid here.

Usually a non-forcing bid is showing a decent suit or compensating values.

Here we have extra values and a fit. Unless something bad happens I am bidding game over a non-forcing 2♣. In fact I may do so immediately.

I did say (in my next post) that I bid 2N (which is imo forcing and showing exactly this hand). Pass was responding to "what to do with balanced min." I think you were not quite deep enough in the quote-nesting

[skjaeran]

2♣ is NF, that's pretty standard, but obviously not worldwide, as other posters suggest.
2NT now shows an 18-19NT, so that's my rebid.

[Siegmund]

I thought jumping to 3NT was obvious.

(I expected 2C to be NF for everyone, and anticipated 2NT was encouraging but not forcing. If you have a firm agreement that 2NT is forcing, fine, do that - but that strikes me as an uncommon agreement, not what I'd assume with a good pickup partner.)

I don't care for 2H. Won't find us a fit and will help them lead a spade.

[ajm218]

partner's hand was:

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I rebid 2♥ and then bid 3♠ over 3♦ - we ended up in 5♦ which made when ♣ were 2-2. 3NT and 5♣ both off on best.

Thoughts? I play much more teams than pairs and at teams I thought 2♥ wasn't particularly close but in England we definitely play 2♣ as forcing undiscussed so 3nt was my only other choice of rebid.