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#1 User is offline   Hairy_Scot 

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Posted 2010-October-18, 00:16

Scoring: IMP

P - P - 1[CL} - P
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What is your preferred response and why?

Assuming response was 1♦ or 1♠ or even 1NT
what do you do when pard bids 3♣?
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Posted 2010-October-18, 00:47

Start with 1♠ and rebid 3NT.
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Posted 2010-October-18, 00:57

1♦/1♠ I don't care.

Next I rebid 1NT.
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Posted 2010-October-18, 00:58

Cascade, on Oct 18 2010, 07:57 AM, said:

1♦/1♠ I don't care.

Next I rebid 1NT.

After partner has rebid 3♣?
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Posted 2010-October-18, 01:09

Oh a mistype - 3NT obviously
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Posted 2010-October-18, 01:26

Hairy_Scot, on Oct 18 2010, 06:16 AM, said:

1. What is your preferred response and why?

2. Assuming response was 1♦ or 1♠ or even 1NT
what do you do when pard bids 3♣?

1. You should bid 1♠ because if LHO bids at the 2 level, the spade suit might be hard to dig out.

2. After

1♣ 1♠
3♣ 3♦

plan is if opener bids

3♥: this probably shows uncertainty on the heart stopper, so 4♣ now.
3♠: now 3NT. If I don't have 5 spades and didn't bid 3NT before, it's because I lack a heart stop.
3NT: fine, pass.
4♣: hearts open, pass.
4♦: well, pard should have some 64, so now 5♣.
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Posted 2010-October-18, 01:30

whereagles, on Oct 18 2010, 08:26 PM, said:

4♦: well, pard should have some 64, so now 5♣.

Not sure I like all of the other options but with this one I wonder why partner didn't bid 2♦ showing roughly the same values and more distribution (nine cards in two suits rather than six cards in one suit) and its more economical.
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Posted 2010-October-18, 01:45

Cascade, on Oct 18 2010, 07:30 AM, said:

whereagles, on Oct 18 2010, 08:26 PM, said:

4♦: well, pard should have some 64, so now 5♣.

Not sure I like all of the other options but with this one I wonder why partner didn't bid 2♦ showing roughly the same values and more distribution (nine cards in two suits rather than six cards in one suit) and its more economical.

how about him having

x
xx
Kxxx
AKQJxx

If you think that's low for a 3♣ bid, just give it an extra ♠K.
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Posted 2010-October-18, 02:14

I guess its a matter of style. I prefer the reverse - in the hand with the extra king.

♦A rather than the king and we have the minimum values for 3♣ for me. I might still reverse.
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Posted 2010-October-18, 02:25

gordontd, on Oct 18 2010, 01:47 PM, said:

Start with 1♠ and rebid 3NT.

Same.
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Posted 2010-October-18, 04:11

Cascade, on Oct 18 2010, 08:14 AM, said:

I guess its a matter of style. I prefer the reverse - in the hand with the extra king.

♦A rather than the king and we have the minimum values for 3♣ for me. I might still reverse.

Yeah, I would also reverse. I put it up because sometimes people bid stuff in other ways, like 3♣ :)
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Posted 2010-October-18, 16:54

Actual bidding at table went:-
P - P - 1♣ - P
1♠- P - 3♣ - P
3♦ - P - 3♠ - P
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What now?

The hands:-
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Posted 2010-October-18, 18:36

1♠ then 3NT. I dislike the 3♦ call. I have such weak spades that I don't care for playing 4-3 fit. I will regret it if partner has a small stiff heart. But otherwise 3NT rates to be a reasonable contract even if we lack heart stopper.
 
 
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