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#1 User is offline   kayin801 

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Posted 2010-October-16, 17:43

All hands playing 2/1 with competent club-level pick-up partner.

Scoring: MP

(P)-1♠-(3♦)-P
(P)-3♥-(P)-?


1a) Agree with initial pass?
1b) What do you bid now?

Scoring: MP

(P)-1♠-(3♦)-P
(P)-3♥-(P)-?


2) You bid?

Edit for clarity: We are South on both hands, we open 1♥ 2nd seat on problem 2.
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Posted 2010-October-16, 18:19

1) Pass was right, and 4D now so partner will choose sensibly between 4H and 4S.

[Reinstating my answer to 2, now that I know it's our side opening in 2nd seat]

I've already bid hearts twice, so now I show my stopper. (Even if the 2H bid didnt promise 6, I won't bid my suit three times without 7 or absolutely no reasonable alternative. Pretty strong implication of 6 hearts from 1H-2H-3S imo.)
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Posted 2010-October-16, 18:38

1. 4D now to show a good H raise for game. If I was certain partner would take 4C as cuebid, I'd bid that.

2. 3H, what's the problem? (Unless 2H already showed 6, even then I'd probably bid 3H although I'd consider 3NT)
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Posted 2010-October-16, 19:27

kayin801, on Oct 16 2010, 06:43 PM, said:

All hands playing 2/1 with competent club-level pick-up partner.

Scoring: MP

(P)-1♠-(3♦)-P
(P)-3♥-(P)-?


1a) Agree with initial pass?
1b) What do you bid now?

Scoring: MP

(P)-1♠-(3♦)-P
(P)-3♥-(P)-?


2) You bid?

Edit for clarity: We are South on both hands, we open 1♥ 2nd seat on problem 2.

2) assuming 2h promises 6 and 2c=gf then 3s now.
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Posted 2010-October-16, 19:46

I don't know how you can bid 4D to show a good heart raise when you have nothing like it. 3H incidentally, might well be 4 cards. Anyway, I think 4S is a stand out now.
On 2 I bid 3S to show my s stopper in the hope partner can bid 3NT. 3H is also a possibility.
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Posted 2010-October-16, 20:00

Ron on the 1st we cannot have a good heart raise - we would have done something else on the 1st round. No matter what anyone thinks about the 'choice of game Q' they have become very common and I would assume they apply here with a competent partner. As an aside, one pair in the Rosenblum (Rosenberg/Willenken maybe?) had a big disaster in a similar sequence.

Not sure about the 2nd. 3♥ I guess.
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Posted 2010-October-16, 20:36

3H is definitely 55+ IMO, there is always the double for other hands. It also suggests diamond void although could easily be 5512. I think my hand is pretty good after pass, but I see that 4D for heart raise isn't really useful cause we are unlikely to have a slam anyways. I'm not sure what you cater for with COG cue here though. That partner is 6403 or something?
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Posted 2010-October-16, 21:04

Phil, on Oct 17 2010, 09:00 AM, said:

Ron on the 1st we cannot have a good heart raise - we would have done something else on the 1st round. No matter what anyone thinks about the 'choice of game Q' they have become very common and I would assume they apply here with a competent partner. As an aside, one pair in the Rosenblum (Rosenberg/Willenken maybe?) had a big disaster in a similar sequence.

Not sure about the 2nd. 3♥ I guess.

I agree Phil; my post was more a reaction to this: "1. 4D now to show a good H raise for game. If I was certain partner would take 4C as cuebid, I'd bid that." from Flameous.

By the way, if 3H is always a 5 carder, what are you going to do with
AKQxx
AKxx
Kxx
x
Double and hear your partner bid some level of clubs? Great bid!
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Posted 2010-October-17, 03:53

1. It is very likely pard has a 55. He has short diamonds and didn't double, so extra shape seems to be the motive for his 3♥ bid. I have some fillers so raise 3♥ to 4. I wouldn't bid 4♦ because that risks an expensive mixup.

2. Now 3♥, even if I've already shown 6 of them. 3NT requires good side stops with pard and if he has them, he'll bid it now.
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Posted 2010-October-17, 04:45

4♦ must be a cog.

3♥ is obv on the second, we haven't clearly told pd we have 6 and it definitely doesn't look like we want to bid 3N and what else is there??
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Posted 2010-October-17, 05:20

The_Hog, on Oct 16 2010, 10:04 PM, said:

what are you going to do with
AKQxx
AKxx
Kxx
x

I think I would bid 3NT.
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  Posted 2010-October-17, 06:51

1) Close decision between 3♠ and 4♥. The three dead diamonds are a concern here, but, I'll choose 4♥ and let the spade suit be the suit for discards.

2) I admit I don't rebid hearts here. I'll bid what I think I can make: 3NT.
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