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Posted 2010-October-15, 21:26
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Posted 2010-October-15, 21:30
Yes. I double.
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Posted 2010-October-15, 21:31
i never get these right but I pass.
8 loser hand,,,bal hand........no shape.......pard did not make a neg x...
Qx of clubs looks like defense
otoh give 4441 shape I would reopen with x.
8 loser hand,,,bal hand........no shape.......pard did not make a neg x...
Qx of clubs looks like defense
otoh give 4441 shape I would reopen with x.
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Posted 2010-October-15, 21:37
pass
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Posted 2010-October-15, 21:45
Pass for me.
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Posted 2010-October-15, 21:55
Double aiming for a three-three?
Not me.
Not me.
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Posted 2010-October-15, 21:59
Pass. I have rubbish.
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Posted 2010-October-15, 22:37
Cascade, on Oct 15 2010, 10:55 PM, said:
Double aiming for a three-three?
Not me.
Not me.
Wow, the glass is 7/8 empty! I mean, even if double is wrong, with two clubs and 4-4 in the majors, I'd at least like to think the doublers are "aiming" for a 7- or 8-card major suit fit or a penalty pass of clubs.
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Posted 2010-October-15, 23:36
yes i was emphasizing the worst outcome 
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Posted 2010-October-16, 01:02
Pass seems clear at the vul & scoring.
In my view, partner shouldn't have the hand that is looking for +800 instead of +430.
With
♠Kxxx ♥AJx ♦Kx ♣KT8x
Sure you will get +800 but that is unusual. Better to bid 3NT with that, rather than have a style that obliges opener to reopen on nearly all hands.
You will miss out on the occasional +300 when responder has a balanced 11-count.
The case for a reopening is greater nv vs vul, or at matchpoints.
In my view, partner shouldn't have the hand that is looking for +800 instead of +430.
With
♠Kxxx ♥AJx ♦Kx ♣KT8x
Sure you will get +800 but that is unusual. Better to bid 3NT with that, rather than have a style that obliges opener to reopen on nearly all hands.
You will miss out on the occasional +300 when responder has a balanced 11-count.
The case for a reopening is greater nv vs vul, or at matchpoints.
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Posted 2010-October-16, 01:39
shevek, on Oct 16 2010, 02:02 AM, said:
Pass seems clear at the vul & scoring.
In my view, partner shouldn't have the hand that is looking for +800 instead of +430.
With
♠Kxxx ♥AJx ♦Kx ♣KT8x
Sure you will get +800 but that is unusual. Better to bid 3NT with that, rather than have a style that obliges opener to reopen on nearly all hands.
You will miss out on the occasional +300 when responder has a balanced 11-count.
The case for a reopening is greater nv vs vul, or at matchpoints.
In my view, partner shouldn't have the hand that is looking for +800 instead of +430.
With
♠Kxxx ♥AJx ♦Kx ♣KT8x
Sure you will get +800 but that is unusual. Better to bid 3NT with that, rather than have a style that obliges opener to reopen on nearly all hands.
You will miss out on the occasional +300 when responder has a balanced 11-count.
The case for a reopening is greater nv vs vul, or at matchpoints.
that hand is impossible
pard must hve more
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Posted 2010-October-16, 02:10
Impossible for what?
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Posted 2010-October-16, 02:33
Cascade, on Oct 16 2010, 03:10 AM, said:
Impossible for what?
i told you
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Posted 2010-October-16, 02:51
I'm lost.
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I believe that the USA currently hold only the World Championship For People Who Still Bid Like Your Auntie Gladys - dburn
dunno how to play 4 card majors - JLOGIC
True but I know Standard American and what better reason could I have for playing Precision? - Hideous Hog
Bidding is an estimation of probabilities SJ Simon
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dunno how to play 4 card majors - JLOGIC
True but I know Standard American and what better reason could I have for playing Precision? - Hideous Hog
Bidding is an estimation of probabilities SJ Simon
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Posted 2010-October-16, 09:03
cnszsun, on Oct 15 2010, 10:26 PM, said:
Scoring: IMP
1♦-2♣-ps-ps
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1♦-2♣-ps-ps
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in spite of all the naysayers who have gone before me, I feel either you don't open the hand or you protect on this auction and IMO it is practically foisted on you. There are too many hands where partner could not make a negative X over 2♣ or holds a penalty pass of 2♣. It just feels too anti-partnership to pass.
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Posted 2010-October-16, 09:30
obvios double for me
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Posted 2010-October-16, 11:04
I'd open a heart with LL, and double, because I've opened.
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Posted 2010-October-16, 13:23
Auto pass.
For partner to have a penalty pass requires either a freakish distribution, in which case it is likely that they have somewhere better to play, or partner to have made a poor bid.
Much more likely is that partner is broke, and that bidding here is suicidal.
Move the queen of clubs to another suit and reopening is much better
For partner to have a penalty pass requires either a freakish distribution, in which case it is likely that they have somewhere better to play, or partner to have made a poor bid.
Much more likely is that partner is broke, and that bidding here is suicidal.
Move the queen of clubs to another suit and reopening is much better
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Posted 2010-October-16, 13:43
I will autopass too. Yes it is possible that partner has a penalty pass, but it is not likely - its probability is low, therefore we should not double.
... and I can prove it with my usual, flawless logic.
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Posted 2010-October-16, 14:07
gwnn, on Oct 16 2010, 01:43 PM, said:
I will autopass too. Yes it is possible that partner has a penalty pass, but it is not likely - its probability is low, therefore we should not double.
Yep. For double to be right, all white, at IMPs:
1. Pard forgot to make a neg double, or
2. Pard forgot the conditions and forgot to bid some number of NT, or
3. We find the magic layout to cowboy up a lot of IMPs on defense.
The odds are just not there, against the possibilities that we might go for a number or give the opps another chance to bid and make their game. Even if we hit a partscore of our own, things can be so that the gain is so small as to not be worth the risk. How about letting them find their real fit in diamonds?
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