2♣ for me too, with or without relays
Bid This ...and do it correctly please.
#21
Posted 2010-October-18, 06:00
... and I can prove it with my usual, flawless logic.
George Carlin
George Carlin
#22
Posted 2010-October-18, 07:24
I would also bid 2C. I think that my auction would start 1H - 2C - 2D - 2H - 3H. Now opener has shown 6+ hearts and 4+ diamonds, responder has shown a gameforcing hand with 3+ hearts, and either clubs or a balanced hand. Then responder would bid 3NT (spade cue with serious slam interest). The complete auction might be:
1H - 2C
2D - 2H
3H - 3NT
4D - 4H (I know partner is missing a club control and I have one, but I am quite minimal for 3NT)
4S - 4NT
5D - 5S (queen ask, all keycards)
6D (♠A, ♥AQ, ♦AK) - 7NT (can count 14 tricks if hearts run)
1H - 2C
2D - 2H
3H - 3NT
4D - 4H (I know partner is missing a club control and I have one, but I am quite minimal for 3NT)
4S - 4NT
5D - 5S (queen ask, all keycards)
6D (♠A, ♥AQ, ♦AK) - 7NT (can count 14 tricks if hearts run)
and the result can be plotted on a graph.
#23
Posted 2010-October-18, 12:27
I am solidly in the 1S camp (if I'm not allowed to have 2NT natural and forcing in my system), but with my usual partners I have ways to make a game-forcing raise after opener's 1N or 2m rebid. People who don't have that in their systems feel the need to start with a 2m response.
#24
Posted 2010-October-18, 13:15
I am one of those who initially respond 2D, followed by heart raise, in order to GF and distinguish between 3 and 4-card heart support. I hope my partner doesn't decide to take total control at this point although the worst that could happen would seem to be to wind up in 7 Ds.
DHL
DHL
"That's my story, and I'm sticking to it!"
#25
Posted 2010-October-18, 13:21
[quote name='Phil' date='Oct 17 2010, 11:12 PM'] Thanks! [/QUOTE]
2[cl].......!
I use to laugh about bidding like this.
Or, 2N natural (and others laugh at me ) [/quote]
No objection to, or laughter about a 2C responses from me at all. It is often easier to develop the bidding after certain responses than after certain other responses. In addition, it is seeming more and more to me that opener often has an easier time rebidding after opening a black suit than after opening a red suit.
DHL
2[cl].......!
I use to laugh about bidding like this.
Or, 2N natural (and others laugh at me ) [/quote]
No objection to, or laughter about a 2C responses from me at all. It is often easier to develop the bidding after certain responses than after certain other responses. In addition, it is seeming more and more to me that opener often has an easier time rebidding after opening a black suit than after opening a red suit.
DHL
"That's my story, and I'm sticking to it!"
#26
Posted 2010-October-18, 13:54
I don't understand some of the posters saying: "... distinguishing between a 3 and 4 card GF ( Ht) raise .." . Doesn't everyone play some form a Jac2NT for a 4 card GF ( or limit+ ) raise ??
Don Stenmark ( TWOferBRIDGE )
#27
Posted 2010-October-20, 03:43
ONEferBRID, on 2010-October-18, 13:54, said:
I don't understand some of the posters saying: "... distinguishing between a 3 and 4 card GF ( Ht) raise .." . Doesn't everyone play some form a Jac2NT for a 4 card GF ( or limit+ ) raise ??
No, we have an immediate raise for balanced hands with ranges around 10-13 with 3+ card fit though (to avoid opener giving info to opps when it's not necessary). Stronger hands start with 2♣.
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