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Matchpoints, how do you balance?

Poll: Your action is? (67 member(s) have cast votes)

Your action is?

  1. Pass (1 votes [1.49%])

    Percentage of vote: 1.49%

  2. Double (53 votes [79.10%])

    Percentage of vote: 79.10%

  3. 3 diamonds (13 votes [19.40%])

    Percentage of vote: 19.40%

  4. Another option (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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Posted 2010-October-14, 00:31

Scoring: MP

1♠-(2♥)-P-(P),
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Matchpoints, what do you do? Would you do something different at a different vulnerability? How about at teams?
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Posted 2010-October-14, 00:59

CSGibson, on Oct 14 2010, 01:31 AM, said:

Dealer: South
Vul: E/W
Scoring: MP
♠ AK987
♥  
♦ AJT74
♣ T75
1♠-(2♥)-P-(P),
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Matchpoints, what do you do?  Would you do something different at a different vulnerability?  How about at teams?

roth stone..

pass never open and have this problem
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open on crap you have crap....
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Posted 2010-October-14, 02:30

Dbl, we have 3 tricks in defense, I don't care about the void. They are Vul, we're not, time for some ass kicking.
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Posted 2010-October-14, 03:17

double!!!
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Posted 2010-October-14, 03:26

mike777, on Oct 14 2010, 06:59 AM, said:

CSGibson, on Oct 14 2010, 01:31 AM, said:

<!-- ONEHAND begin --><table border='1'> <tr> <td> <table> <tr> <td> Dealer: </td> <td> South </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Vul: </td> <td> E/W </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Scoring: </td> <td> MP </td> </tr> </table> </td> <td> <table> <tr> <th> <span class='spades'> ♠ </span> </th> <td> AK987 </td> </tr> <tr> <th> <span class='hearts'> ♥ </span> </th> <td>  </td> </tr> <tr> <th> <span class='diamonds'> ♦ </span> </th> <td> AJT74 </td> </tr> <tr> <th> <span class='clubs'> ♣ </span> </th> <td> T75 </td> </tr> </table> </td> <td> 1♠-(2♥)-P-(P),
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Matchpoints, what do you do?  Would you do something different at a different vulnerability?  How about at teams?

roth stone..

pass never open and have this problem
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open on crap you have crap....

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Posted 2010-October-14, 03:33

Definitely not 3♦

Double is marginal for me.

I wouldn't do it at IMPs.
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Posted 2010-October-14, 03:52

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Posted 2010-October-14, 05:50

Cascade, on Oct 14 2010, 09:33 AM, said:

I wouldn't do it at IMPs.

What would you do then?
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Posted 2010-October-14, 07:50

I would double anyway, but... do you have a way to distinguish between good and bad 3♦ bids here?
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Posted 2010-October-14, 08:40

campboy, on Oct 14 2010, 06:50 AM, said:

I would double anyway, but... do you have a way to distinguish between good and bad 3♦ bids here?

No, we only use good/bad 2N in situations where they have bid and raised a suit.
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Posted 2010-October-14, 08:42

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Matchpoints, what do you do?  Would you do something different at a different vulnerability?  How about at teams?

roth stone..

pass never open and have this problem
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open on crap you have crap....

Roth would open this hand, as would Stone IMO. There are three quick tricks, an upgradable AJT, and 5-5 shape with two good suits. Passing this hand is not an option to bridge players, IMO
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Posted 2010-October-14, 12:14

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  Posted 2010-October-14, 12:19

I have a good/bad 2nt available here. I still double. They are coming in at adverse probability. It's far easier to net +200 at 2HX -1 versus a hard fought +110 at 3♦ when pard's on a 1-5-2-5 hand dreaming of a double.
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Posted 2010-October-14, 13:14

keylime, on Oct 14 2010, 01:19 PM, said:

I have a good/bad 2nt available here. I still double. They are coming in at adverse probability. It's far easier to net +200 at 2HX -1 versus a hard fought +110 at 3♦ when pard's on a 1-5-2-5 hand dreaming of a double.

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Posted 2010-October-14, 13:51

I double, and this probably means that everyone doubles since I often pass rather than balance. Reverse the clubs and diamonds and I might pass since hearing 3D in response to my double would not please me. As it is, it can still go wrong but I double.

Actually, doubling with clubs and diamonds reversed may not be so bad. If pard skips over everything else to bid diamonds he may well have five, and having the three card support in the hand with the void is not the worst thing in the world. So I guess I vote for X that way also.
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Posted 2010-October-14, 19:35

Yeah I double think the whole dont double with a void thing is kinda whackd.
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Posted 2010-October-14, 19:59

Double.
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Posted 2010-October-14, 20:05

Generally don't with a void at the one level especially if you are on lead.
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Posted 2010-October-15, 10:36

cloa513, on Oct 14 2010, 07:05 PM, said:

Generally don't with a void at the one level especially if you are on lead.

What are you talking about? The OP is a 2 level decision...
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Posted 2010-October-15, 10:56

he's talking about the 1 level. he thinks the rule of not doubling with a void should apply on the 1 level in direct seat. (I disagree.)
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