[jdonn]

Why would I even mind if I double and partner passes, I have AK A and he will make a good lead.

[dcvetkov]

Larry Cohen once wrote an article advocating strongly against double here with a void. Basically if you cant stand the parts to pass , do not double.
Most of you like defensive prospects here it seems . However I would not be surprised if they have something like 9 trumps and 2H makes. LHO can see the vulnerability too

[ggwhiz]

Double at the speed of light. It's only Matchpoints and I smell some.

1. they go down
2. pard pulls and we make
3. pard pulls and we go down (even better for sounding tough on the way)
4. they make 670 or 870

Three out of four is good odds and rho did pass the 2♥ bid which makes a 9 card fit for them that includes decent strength unlikely.

[MarkDean]

Definitely double. I am happy if partner passes and happy if partner bids (well, ok, not that happy if he bids 3♣).

[CSGibson]

Ok, reason I asked is that I was told that Xing, and not bidding 3♦, is just plain losing bridge in the long run by a player that I respect. It turns out that on this hand we can make 4♦ (5 if I pick off the singleton ♦K offsides), and they can make 3♥, but we can't legitimately get to diamonds unless I bid them. Anyone willing to do a sim, partner cannot have 3 spades and 6+ HCP, or both minors and 8+ (unless he has made a penalty pass with a heart stack), and RHO cannot have heart support and 8+ HCP, what comes out the longterm winner in terms of X or 3♦?

[P_Marlowe]

3D

We play 2NT as good- bad, direct bids being weaker.

If you dont want to bid 3D, X is clear cut.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[whereagles]

Easy dbl, despite the void. The hand is not all-out offense.

[mtvesuvius]

X

[wyman]

I vote X also.

Did someone seriously suggest not opening this?

[mikestar13]

I'm a bit surprised at the consensus for double--the ♥void impairs the defense and we have a good second suit to show. Pass is for cowards.

[phil_20686]

the idea here that you wouldn't dble seems bizzare to me. Even conservative players will over call here on nice 11 with a 6 card suit, and that could easily be 800. RHO will virtually all of the time when they have a 9 card fit because this is a key pressure play position. Very often we will have a good minor suit fit and not be able to get into the auction over 3h. It does not seem that rho can lack the values for a raise to 3h when he has 3 hearts, so just occasionally you will run into someone with a monster over call who might have some play for 2h. But I would expect partner to have a good 4 or 5 hearts here 80% of the time. The chance of opps having better than a 6-2 fit are pretty slim imo.

[phil_20686]

mikestar13, on 2010-October-27, 15:34, said:

I'm a bit surprised at the consensus for double--the ♥void impairs the defense and we have a good second suit to show. Pass is for cowards.

EH?

Sure. KQJxx x KQJx xxx is likely to defend much better than AKA void! and would anyone seriously not reopen that with a dble? I do not think that a void often impairs the defense when i have plenty of outside strength a good chance i can play winning spades through declarer. Sure. AKxxx x AJTxx xx might be better for dble, but if you think AKA v is worse than the example i gave then you are giving far to much weight to the "adjustment" and not enough to the strength of the hand.