straube, on Oct 13 2010, 02:38 PM, said:
I do not have more details but I would imagine that you can pass 2H with a 6-card suit but that with 5 hearts and 10-12 you bid 2S or 2NT having showing your suit along the way. Then the GF hands are shown at the 3 level in exactly the same way as the natural auction 1S - 2H - 2S but with a slightly tighter strength certainty. Why would this be too much - it is precisely the same as the auction quoted above but with additional options and, most importantly, freeing up the 2H bid to use as a cheap raise.
Just to throw you something completely different since I believe from your other discussions that you use limited openings within a relay system. You might like to play around with my structure...
1S opening
1N = inv+ relay
2C = 6-9, 4+ clubs
2D = 6-9, 4+ diamonds, usually 0-3 clubs
2H = 6-9, 5+ hearts, usually 0-3 in both minors
2S = 6-9 raise
2N and up = various 4-card raises
1S - 1N
2C = any min without 4 hearts
2D = 4 hearts
2H = 4+ clubs, GF
2S = 6+ spades, 1 suited, GF
2N and up = 4+ diamonds, GF
1S - 1N - 2C
2D = GF relay
2H = 5+ hearts, invitational
2S = 3 card limit raise
2N = invitational
3m = 6+ suit, invitational
1S - 1N - 2D
2H = GF relay
2S = 3 card limit raise
2N = invitational
3m = 6+ suit, invitational
3H = 4+ hearts, invitational
Of course this might not work within your relay system since it starts a level higher. In compensation you have more narrowly defined opener's range which makes judging the relays simpler and saves 1 or 2 steps later on. You have also removed all of the hands with both majors. Finally, it may look strange to bid a 4 card club suit before a 5 card heart suit but testing has shown this approach to be better. On the auctions where opener has extras to explore game the fit will come to light. When opener is minimum the ability to stop quickly in a low level 7 or 8 card fit is handy.